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What are Supports even for ?

GroewXcurse··2 votes·741 views

League of legends might have been much much more fun to play if it was a 4v4 game with no supports. 1-Because no one likes to play them and no one likes to pick them or to be forced to pick them 2-Because 90% of the games in low elo there is actually no support in one of the teams 3-Because it would be real fun play in bot 1v1 adc vs adc 4-Because they are waste of space in 90% of low elo and probably 40% in high elo(i dont know) So my suggestion is for riot to make a 4v4 mode(mode like urf mode...) Or make a 4v4 blind pick or draft pick (forever) Please consider rito if you read this.Varus

23 Comments

Jobriq3 votes

have you tried Twisted Treeline? There's no support there

GroewXcurse1 votes

Twisted Treeline is restraining more than just the absence of supports.

Meat Feast2 votes

could you pass the salt please?

GroewXcurse1 votes

I thought you had it.

Der Lindwurm2 votes

Pro teams have them. Therefore, so do we. Basically.

I agree that the fact that the whole support role is viewed so derisively and is such an offense to one's dignity to play at lower levels may be a good reason for bronze/silver teams to try out alternate team configurations, but that would make it harder to coordinate with strangers and coordination's probably hurting pretty badly already.

GroewXcurse1 votes

I am not saying that playing support is not fun.For example i like the mechanics of Nami and Leona. But i main adc and i rarely get a support. Mostly its Teemo or Shen or Darius or something like that. Or its some kind of a dude who engages while there are 12 enemy minions wave on the lane and then flames that i did not help him... ? I mean my bot game does not depend on me. And i have to play Varus mid.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Supp isn't fun it's boring unfun and you get blamed for losing .if supp was so important why is it always autofilled and why does most of the player base hates it . Also supp is the easiest thing to play

Onecimus1 votes

1). I love playing support, as do many others. I love that I don't have to worry about CS at all, just poking and laning. I love that I am not responsible for carrying the game, I am responsible for carrying the people that carry the game. I love everything about the roll.

2). Maybe in extremely low elo that is an issue, but even in silver nearly every game has a support for both teams. Sometimes off meta, but still a support.

3). If ADCs didn't have a support and it was a "1v1" it would be a 2v1 with the jungler hanging out with you all game. ADCs (attack damage carry) need to be protected as they carry your team mid to late game. Arguably even earlier. But they are not invincible. And bot lane is a long lane, meaning any kind of meaningful gank on just an ADC in the middle of the lane would result in your death.

4). They are by no means a waste of space. If it was more efficient to not take a support and instead have double ADC bot lane or something, people would do it. People play what wins. I play Ardent supports as they provide your team with sustain like no other roll can provide. Supports quietly do more than alot of laners. There's just no way to measure how well they are doing it. Altho I will admit Riot is doing better at gauging that by keeping track of healing and shielding done to allies and vision score.

Not to mention, if you take out the support roll, there are about 1/5 of the champions who no longer have any purpose, or have no purpose in the proposed gamemode.

GroewXcurse1 votes

Both teams have junglers.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

AlienPrimate1 votes

People who think support doesn't matter in low elo are ignorant. Here is my last support game when queuing with some low bronze friends.

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2738891177/209287161?tab=overview

Here is the same ADC player with a trash Nunu support who had no clue what he was doing the game before.

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2738873289/209287161?tab=overview

GroewXcurse1 votes

Supports matter too much. but there are no such things as supports in Solo queue. Not in my elo. Speaking of which i wonder how i deserved. I have good kda in 80% of my games and i also carry alot of games and do alot of amazing stuff. I am trying my best to have maximum farm and maximum teamplay. And i do it. And there i am silver 5 . this is a luck based game you cant compare games...

Liquid Poro 1 votes

I played support. What are you talking about?

GroewXcurse1 votes

Okay friends look. League of legends has lanes right ? Top lane champions play top , junglers play jungle , mid play mid , adc plays adc. But they all also play support... Supports dont play supports. Darius, Teemo, Jarvan, Kha zix and others do play support. And even if there is a support he cant play.I main Varus since 2014 and i had like 10% of my games decent support. All the others do is engage when i am farming and engage against big waves and engage when it is obvious we are both gonna die . Then if i dont help(meaning go and die with them) they flame. This is disgusting ... I dont care about winning or loosing, I dont care about feeders. But there is no such thing like "Game" in bot lane. It is just the most luck based lane.

AlienPrimate2 votes

Top lane champions don't play top. Tanks, fighters, mages, and the occasional marksmen play top lane. Middle laners don't play middle lane. Assassins and mages play middle lane. Junglers don't play jungle. Fighters, assassins, and tanks play jungle. That leaves support and bottom. Supports don't play support. Enchanters, divers, and wardens mostly play support. I can see your frustration on some of the supports you listed like Darius and Kha'zix, but Teemo and J4 both work just fine. J4 increases your attack speed and offers a lot of cc and Teemo offers a good amount of poke and completely shuts down the enemy adc with blind.

Instead of whining about a role you have trouble with on your teams why don't you use the boards for a different reason. Use the player recruitment section to find yourself a support main to duo with.

GroewXcurse1 votes

Having a good support is fun. Teamplay in bot is fun. But what are you even talking about ??? Do you know how stupidly played Teemo and J4 are played in my elo as supports. Have you ever seen that in LCS or something ? Supports have to save and help adc. And what is that wierd BS quoting me. "Tanks,fighters,mages... ?" I just wanned to make a point that in support lane there should be only real capable supports. I understand that champions like Vayne are meta in top lane -.-...

AlienPrimate1 votes

What determines if a champion is a capable support though? Does Riot have to make a list of which champions can play support? A few years ago Brand would have been considered a troll pick in support and now he is meta. You mentioned your elo multiple times in the OP. Do you not realize that you are also in the same elo? Work on your own mechanics and decision making and you will climb. Stop trying to place the blame on others.

GroewXcurse1 votes

Blame ? I don't really care about loosing or wininng. Its just in so many games there are no supports. I am happy when there is a support but however do you have any idea how i play and how i am matched. I am good and i know exactly what to do... Sometimes i am not concentrated on the game but in most of my games i have good KDA... "Climbing" is luck based ... Are my teamates going to play good this game or not?... In so many games my 4 teamtes are feeders....

GroewXcurse1 votes

It was just my opinion... Why would you call it whining :) ? Its rather explaining . Don't get me wrong the whole thing was that there are almost no supports in low elo thats what i ment to say i guess. Most of my games i have 4 feeders in my team i don't complain i don't care i lose ranked 7/4 and 15/3 KDA with good teamplay and objective thinking.. i mean if you are wondering why i am Low Elo. I still have fun playing.

GroewXcurse1 votes

So tell me guys why do i get 7 dislikes for telling the truth ? Hmh ?

GroewXcurse1 votes

As long as the people don't fear the truth, there is hope. For once they fear it, the one who tells it doesn't stand a chance. And today, truth is still beautiful... but so frightening.

GroewXcurse1 votes

How can i get such huge load of BS as responses in game and in this forum. xD I cant belive it. I am speaking honestly. Are you all fakers or something to speak theoretically and think its true ? No . If faker comments i will bow to him and admit. But you are making arguments that are not even logical. You are not even reading what i post and you just spill some BS...

Gabresol1 votes

without a support, most adcs would just fall out of the game, because without a support, going further than their own basic attack range away from their turret will end with their death. ADCs are not designed to deal with ganks on their own.

GroewXcurse1 votes

Why is everyone taking what i say so literally. Or answering a literal question.... However there are wards... Pink wards... Flash... And alot of ADC's have dashes and stuns...

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