Remove the Fighter tag from Yasuo

Stars Shaper·Nov 18, 2014·3 votes·648 views

A melee guy who has less HP than ADCs and Mages while having HP runes and a bit of HP masteries and without MR x lvl can't be classified into the Fighter group expecially as Primary Role.

14 Comments

1st HanarSpectreNov 18, 20143 votes

Well, Gnar Gnar has a marksman tag, so I wouldn't really worry about tags that much.

Stars ShaperNov 18, 20141 votes

As a secondary tag it actually works because it's true that you build him as a fighter (primary tag) but yet you are mainly in the ranged squishy form.

Brenticus12Nov 19, 20141 votes

Most of Gnar's plays are done as a fighter i.e Mega Gnar. You also tend to build him like a fighter. Marksman should be a secondary role.

The Red WardenNov 18, 20143 votes

Urgot is an adc supposedly

Kuroi86Nov 18, 20141 votes

Marksman

The Red WardenNov 18, 20141 votes

I respect the old titles

Kuroi86Nov 18, 20143 votes

The ideal of a fighter is a champion who combines offensive and defensive items for a powerful combo of burst and dps. Can Yasuo fit this ideal?

Stars ShaperNov 18, 20141 votes

While still being able to soak a certain amount of damage, less than a tank, more than a pure assa/marks.

This last thing is what makes Yasuo out of the Fighter group. He has the least HP of all Fighters, he is the only pure melee (3d Q doesn't make him ranged) without MR x lvl, he walks slow as a tank (a swift samurai that walks as slow as a heavy armored fellow... interesting), has second lower armor and his defensive tools are more in the control of the enemy rather than himself.

He should basically be a less-tanky Xin but he ends up being the squishy version of an assassin.

Kuroi86Nov 18, 20141 votes

I think the move speed is due to the expectation he'll be building Shiv early, but that could just be me. With a combo of Shiv, IE and a life steal item, then going tanky with merc or tabi then randuins or banshee's, ect. How effective would Yas be?

Stars ShaperNov 19, 20141 votes

It would be a really bad design to lower his movement speed because he builds fast a movement speed item and also is not balanced at all because many other champions build a MS item too, GP for example has far more base stats while he also builds Shiv as fast as he can.

Kuroi86Nov 19, 20141 votes

GP can build just about anything, I'd say a shiv is probably not a great first item on him but that's just imo.

Marksmen stack AD, they have relatively low base AD. Garen' W grants him bonus Ar/Mr. His base Ar/Mr is rather low. Riot has done it before and I wouldn't be surprised if Yas is another example of a low base leading to a champion wanting to prioritize that stat first. But again, just imo.

EnglebrechtNov 18, 20142 votes

Just remove the fucking tags period.

OrbvNov 18, 20141 votes

I'm pretty sure what Riot declares a fighter and what one ends up being in game are two completely separate things.

Stars ShaperNov 19, 20141 votes

Then Yasuo has been built wrong in terms of base stats because if that's how you say he needs to build everything by items since he is inferior to all his "class members". It's not really something it can go well.