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This New BE system is honestly such a downgrade from the ip system

Predàtor·11/17/2017, 8:51:51 AM·164 votes·4,276 views

Im getting really sick and tired of having to grind for levels over and over just for RNG to screw me with the oldest champs in the game dropping from the champ chests, like "oh i see you just played a bunch of games, here is a champ shard worth 90 BE", great, awesome, maybe ill be able to afford a champ in a few years

EDIT: also can someone with a brain(which obviously doesnt include anyone at riot) please explain why the Orange Essence shards were lowered? because according to Riot(which is completely false) we have "Easier Access" to skin shards, and anyone in their right mind knows thats completely untrue, im getting on average 1 key shard every like 5-6 days, and no level ups so far drop skin shards, i have so many skin shards that i got out a set of 10 chests i bought that i already own the skin so they arent worth keeping, but they also arent worth the measly 100-200 Orange essence i would get for dissenchanting, like Legendary skin shards are even worth just barely over 300 now but no costs for upgrading shards has changed

118 Comments

Okuma11/17/2017, 9:09:27 AM32 votes

I wouldn't mind the new system if they gave us a little bit of BE per game.

Sewer Side11/17/2017, 3:26:02 PM11 votes

I still don't understand what's so hard to grasp.

You get 810-1260 BE per level up, which can take about 10 wins or 13-15 mixed results at worst. That translates to 81-100 IP on average per average game in the long run with is very consistent with the old system (using the non bugged IP gains)

If you aren't hitting a minimum of 810 per level, contact support. What individual shards you get is fucking irrelevant, since the net result should be within that range.

Zeykra11/17/2017, 8:30:12 PM9 votes

I've leveled up about four times, you know how much blue essence I've gotten out of that? Good ole 1.3k. ONE. THOUSAND. THREE. HUNDRED. If they're really going for this shit, they should remove the damn 90 BE Champions from the loot box. You know how shitty it is to get two sorakas and a garen? This is such a terrible update.

Ripikou11/18/2017, 5:44:36 AM7 votes

Riot has been bad at making changes to "IP" for the greater "good". When I first started S1 it didn't feel bad. then it started feeling grinding. Then they went all EA and said they'd make it better and made it worse. Now there is this hot steamy pile. Random bring up of costing 10 million to franchise in league. It's like Riot is 400 different companies and only 2 aren't POS.

The Yetii Rider11/17/2017, 4:45:10 PM6 votes

We've seen the math, it's clear that you're making more BE than you would have IP before.

Jerry SeinfeId11/17/2017, 2:01:44 PM6 votes

bubby we know you're lying. you get atleast 820 every level.

dreamstalkers11/17/2017, 10:19:15 PM5 votes

It has really turned into a grindfest. I wanted to get one champ today by playing a few games, then playing 1-2 with the champ...

but no, now I have to level up first, which is like 10 games and then HOPEFULLY have enough to afford my champ. Extremely annoying system.

Mech0p11/18/2017, 1:38:15 AM4 votes

This new system is complete and utter trash... After 6 levels I feel like I've gotten a pretty good feel for it and as of right now I'm in the negatives compared to the old system.... 5-6 levels I've only gotten 810 which are all old champs and nothing over 1350 and one time out of these 6 I got Quinn which I believe went for 960 and is a 4800 champ.... By now I would easily have 6300 and more likely around 7500 Ip normally but with this now shitty system I've only gotten around 4800.... What happened to this being about a 9% gain riot because from what I see 7-10 times your getting fucked by rng and getting 810 and when you get that every time there is no way this system can compete and give us anywhere near what we used to get.... Now you can reply with the bullshit math that you've already given us but even then its not adding up and meeting the mark... Just admit you royally screwed up this time and you might as well tell us your making this game extremely grindy and in time gonna add many micro transactions... I could usually care less about the updates like juggernauts, assassins, and all of the other gameplay updates because ill get used to them with time but when you make it take 2 fucking weeks to get a 6300 champ with playing around 7-8 hours a day that's complete bullshit...

Frozen Diva11/17/2017, 8:48:15 PM4 votes

Pretty sure they lie about the benefits of the BE system. There is no way you are geting the same amount as before. It feels so unsatisfying to play and level up for Ashe/Nunu/Singed shards.

Ben Burner11/18/2017, 5:46:41 AM4 votes

Can I just have the old system back..... This BE system is such a downgrade and it's ruining my League experience..... Like what the heck, I open my first Champion Capsule and all it gave me was Alistar, Garen, Taric, and Rammus. In total, I received only 900 BE for all the games I played...............

alfrednox11/18/2017, 10:45:38 AM4 votes

This thread is full of people who did not even reach the alleged minimum, doesn't this invalidate riots fake math yet?

ADC5LUT11/18/2017, 8:50:16 AM3 votes

It's rigged for peeps who have every champ. When I have 1 6300 IP champ unlocked guess what "mystery" champion shard I'm going to get everytime I open one?

xtyler100x11/18/2017, 2:43:09 PM3 votes

I been sick and tired of this BE level system since day one.... im dying pls help

Rebellions11/18/2017, 6:26:12 AM2 votes

Frankly it gets worse when you realize the amount of champions you get in a chest are random. I didn't realize untill I hit level 33 (I think it was) that the system isn't hard-locked at 2 champions. I realized this when my best friend pulled 6 champions out of a single capsule. Then in my next capsule I pulled like 6 champions.... 3 of which were Annie....