This Ryze Nerf Is Awful.

FatTaco·2/14/2016, 4:50:15 PM·7 votes·786 views

What were Riot thinking? He is literally unplayable, uncarryable until you get to level 16 - 18 and have a lot of magic pen so you can almost do true magic damage + a team that has not fed. The 5 spell cap is so awful, you cannot, I repeat CANNOT kill a single champion squishy or tanky unless they are 60% HP or lower. You get them down to 15% - 10% HP after 1 rotation and have to use pathetic basic attacks and wait 2 whole seconds to fire an E that does hardly any damage and in that time frame you do not survive the fight at all until you have a Void Staff. This is literally one of the worst decisions to balance a champion. What I don't understand is why Ryze has been nerfed when his Solo Queue performance was really poor. LCS yes I understand he is a solid pick but they won't even have the nerf themselves so it only screws over the very small percent of players that practiced Ryze on Solo Queue to master him.

The PBE notes said they are buffing the Q damage by about 40 base damage this is nice but it needs more, not more damage but Ryze will still under-perform due to this 5 spell cap, if you want Supercharge to be his passive you need to give him more spells to sling. I really don't see what their plan is for Ryze. In my opinion just get to work on a whole new kit for Ryze because you've made problems trying to resolve his balance from 1st rework Ryze and you clearly can't maintain the 2nd one. I just can't believe how badly they've gutted him this time around, I am used to Ryze being nerfed but he's always been able to perform well if you play around the nerfs this time this literally cancels any of that out because the stupid 5 spell cap.

6 Comments

Bladerunner77772/14/2016, 7:00:43 PM7 votes

As unfair as it sounds, I can't say I'm actually upset

I would rather Ryze to not exist than to be an unbalancable champion

Erockandroll2/14/2016, 4:58:49 PM1 votes

Well if we are to believe riot, their reasoning was to flatten the difference between his skill floor and cap. Apparently it's impossible to balance him across multiple Elos.

I'm not entirely opposed to this, as long as they actually balance him around the new mechanic, and not simply forget about him.

Andrionar2/14/2016, 7:45:24 PM1 votes

What the hell you are talking about? Hes insane in soloq if mastered. I got wrecked while playing against decent Ryze with any meele champion. At level 6 as darius, nasus or any other, even with 90+ MR I get one shoted everytime I'm in Ryze range.

In one game as Nasus, I had spectres cowl, mercury threads and kindlegem, Ryze roamed me from mid, being barely one level ahead with 2 kills and destroyed me under my own tower then the wave pushed in. I barely had time to flash out of hes stuns, but he fallowed me with hes own flash to finish me. And tell me, does it realy sound balanced? Low win rate doesn't mean anything then talking about certain champions like Ryze.

It's ok, nothing special to see.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9s3917_ztE

It's hilarious that you're not even allowed to come in to hes flash range - after that, you're dead.... I can agree with only thing, that Ryze is hard to balance and I'd rather see him as unplayable, until hes totaly reworked.

Edited: Obviously, Riot overdid recent nerfs with Ryze, becouse they were unable to find a right fix, fast enought.