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Banning changes

The Deaner··1 votes·528 views

Some of the recent talk has been about the upcoming banning changes, and personally I'm all for them. I look forward to everyone having a chance to take part in the banning process, but there's one thing that I have been wondering for a very long time, and I think now would be a good time to voice it.

To the best of my knowledge the original champion count was 40. Riot implemented 6 bans in the drafting process. So that leaves 85% of the champions available after all banning has been completed. At the end of Season 1 there were 68 champions. That's 91.17% available after bans. Fast forward to today and there's 128 champions, with one on the way. That's 95.34% available.

See the pattern? As the champion count goes up, so does the percent of available champions. This developmental heading is rendering the drafting process increasingly impotent.

Don't you think it's time to implement another ban for each team? 6 bans for 130ish picks is ridiculously low.

Honestly even if the bans were brought up to 8, that would still make it 93.75%. Nowhere near the original percentage, but at least closer to the first couple of seasons. With the champion count showing no signs of slowing down there will come a time where the 6 bans will be akin to taking a bucket of water out of a lake. Don't get me wrong, I love new champs as much as the next guy, but something needs to be done or drafting will be little more than a formality.

6 Comments

Hilary Clintbag1 votes

I agree entirely.

alasarcher1 votes

Bans are more for professional play, where people know who they play against. Bans are pointless in solo q as you have no idea who you playing against. 1 or 2 are enough in case there comes something crazy like release Xin or old Kassadin. Or to ban that 1 hard counter for your champ. But there isnt any need for more than 6.

The Deaner1 votes

So you're saying that when draft mode was created, its intent was to cater purely towards professional play. Even though there was no League of Legends professional events yet, or even knowledge that there ever would be?

Then why reform draft at all? it's not for us anyway... Right? I'm pretty sure pro league players can talk to each other during the banning phase. So it seems like the update is a complete waste of time then. Why not just remove draft completely, and make a "no more than one of each champ" mode. Same results, and quicker.

alasarcher1 votes

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So you're saying that when draft mode was created, its intent was to cater purely towards professional play. Even though there was no League of Legends professional events yet, or even knowledge that there ever would be?

Then why reform draft at all? it's not for us anyway... Right? I'm pretty sure pro league players can talk to each other during the banning phase. So it seems like the update is a complete waste of time then. Why not just remove draft completely, and make a "no more than one of each champ" mode. Same results, and quicker.

You do know League of Legends history? Guinsoo, who created DOTA ALLSTARS, participated in creation of LOL. LOL was inspired by DOTA and DOTA competitive play included 3 bans for each team. It was always effective so they were hoping or expected that LOL will rise in competitive popularity, so they added same pick and ban stage. In DOTA (talking about DOTA Warcraft 3 mod not DOTA 2, didnt play DOTA 2) it was same, you(Red) and opponent(pink) ban 3 champs each. After that picks go 1-2-2-2-2-1 same as here. Thats why it was created like that 3 bans each.

The Deaner1 votes

Thank for you sharing, and it's interesting to learn why the games are so similar, but that doesn't change the points.

Also dota 2 is 111 champions. that's 92.79%. My case stands

alasarcher1 votes

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Thank for you sharing, and it's interesting to learn why the games are so similar, but that doesn't change the points.

Also dota 2 is 111 champions. that's 92.79%. My case stands

Well, it would be stupid if many champions werent available, just for fun of it. There is no reason to have more, no point. you dont know who you play against, his champion pool. U just ban 3 random champions and thats it. I personally ban champs i dont want my teammate to pick, champs i consider useless that are overhyped like Illaoi or champs that require too much skill where people fail most of the time like Vayne or champs that someone played on LCs differently. Like during worlds, i started banning Kennen so none of dumbasses in plat would pick it as ADC or Support.

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