Get RID of Sated Dev....

StargazerX9·Sep 6, 2015·38 votes·2,542 views

Seriously, this item has ruin jungle for most in solo q. Most champions can solo drag. No counter play cause these champs do so much dmage with this item. Build armor and or magic resist does not work. Its not even about teamwork anymore. Is just a race to finish the item first. Tank junglars arent even played any more. Cause they are too relient on teamwork. While most chanps like xin can be easy freelo and just rip theough everything. I feel as if skill does not play apart anymore. Bring Season 3-4 jungle back.

36 Comments

BlkGolemSep 6, 20157 votes

"Most champions can solo drag."

This in itself displays some of the problems with LoL; objectives being extremely important but still being outclassed by single champion power instead of how well a team plays.

But yeah I don't like devourer. There is a reason Feral Flare got deleted, a reason people hate Nasus, etc.

SentineIsSep 6, 20155 votes

Sated is getting nerfed on the pbe.

StargazerX9Sep 6, 20153 votes

Thats fine i guess. But they need to do something fast. I cant enjoy playing jungle with some champions I like because oh.. Xin,yi, kayle, ww just destroyes you. Adcs are really hurting this season.

ARequestOfDeathSep 6, 20151 votes

meanwhile aatrox is sad because of them nerfs and FUCK ADCS ALL THEY DO IS COMPLAIN. for example my Vayne is low health i heal him as Nami and it hits the enemy Draven killing him than all of a sudden the Vayne just goes all bezerk about how im such a bad support by accidentally stealling his kill and than he went afk abusing me until the game finished

BhagswagSep 6, 20151 votes

I would lol and go assist the other members of the team. There is no rule saying "Supports are bound to ADC; they must assist ADC."

Go between mid top and gank. Just surf over the negativity.

macromiteSep 6, 20154 votes

adc's are hurting every season according to adc mains. accept the fact you can't burst people and get over yourself.

IcyPepperSep 6, 20151 votes

I'm wondering what adc mains want exactly...

A Miss FortuneSep 6, 20151 votes

What don't we want is a better question

IcyPepperSep 6, 20151 votes

What don't adc mains want?

>tombdragon is completely missing the point

macromiteSep 6, 20153 votes

They don't want to die ever.

TurquoiseYoshiSep 6, 20154 votes

I agree that Sated is too powerful and needs to be nerfed, but it doesn't need to be removed. It just needs to be balanced a bit better and Riot needs to show more of its weaknesses.

NekusenSep 6, 20154 votes

what people tend to overlook with these "the counterplay is killing his jungle" is

that would be the counter to every jungler
Devourer is more cost-efficient than other jg items on buy, even without stacks, even without sating it you are already getting more for the same price

Dar RaksadaSep 6, 20151 votes

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what people tend to overlook with these "the counterplay is killing his jungle" is

that would be the counter to every jungler

Devourer is more cost-efficient than other jg items on buy, even without stacks, even without sating it you are already getting more for the same price

Killing his jungle has a bigger impact on some champions/enchants than others though. Back when I mained fiddle a while ago I'd mostly be ganking. Now I main sion for ranked and noc if I jungle normals and taking my jungle is a much more effective counter.

WookieJesuzSep 6, 20153 votes

Can people please look at PBE patch notes before they QQ on threads like this.... here's a hint: Maybe bully the sated jungler so early that they fall super far behind! Building magic resistance and armor doesnt work? Sated: Does magic damage ~ build MR Sated works well with Bork ~ build armor. your point?

StargazerX9Sep 6, 20152 votes

Can you gtfo please. As you can see I posted this before any news about the nerf. Also not everyone follows pbe hardcore(it can still change). I have an opinion, that most people can agree with. Learn the difference between actually QQing and somone explaining something about a very unfair item.

Dont post on threads assuming that your some god, learn to read first.

IamAnoobAlwaysSep 6, 20151 votes

Learn to spell first before you rant because you look like an illiterate tard who could know nothing. There is spell check. Anyways, as I am against sated devourer, I believe it should be percent based missing health. This item devourers the weak and defeated... so you know where this leads to. I have built a spirit visage and a randuins/dead mans plate and done fine against the sated. Carrys and mid laners need to beware though.

WookieJesuzSep 6, 20153 votes

Your opinion seems to be just saying there's no counterplay,

No counter play cause these champs do so much dmage with this item. Build armor and or magic resist does not work.

Its not even about teamwork anymore.

Actually, teamwork does work. CC the carry to death and you win the game. Sated is a bit strong right now, and is getting respective nerfs. The item doesn't need to be removed because somebody doesn't know how to build some defense. If you're going to make a QQ thread about devourer, (dont even say this isnt one, your points really dont make any sense) then look to see if it's getting nerfs on the PBE first so you can have an educated opinion about what is yet to be.

Saying nerf devourer right now is like if there was a marshmallow factory that recieved complaints about the taste of their product, so they begin to change it. While they are changing it, the complainers still complain, because they are too blindly focused on the present to see that their cries have been answered.

Riot is nerfing devourer a fair bit, making it weaker up to the point of sated. The counterplay to this item comes in 3 forms:

build MR/armor to reduce the damage taken
bully the devourerer before they can get it to sated, so your team is so far ahead it doesnt matter.
Just CC the person to death, or use fiora/vaynes % max health true dmg on them c:

NekusenSep 6, 20151 votes

{quoted} 1. build MR/armor to reduce the damage taken

then get destroyed by the autoattacks and on-hit effects.

2. bully the devourerer before they can get it to sated.

devourer is cost-effective from the moment you buy it, even if they removed sated they would have to tone it down.

3. Just CC the person to death

thats the answer to everything. a better suggestion would be "kill it"

WookieJesuzSep 6, 20152 votes

On hit effects do either physical or magic damage, both of which can be reduced by resistances. They are nerfing semi hard the damage sated gives early, making it a lot less powerful early, but still pretty powerful sated. Yes CC wins games. Rammus op. When they are CC'd they can't damage you! Don't expect to play somebody without peel/escape/cc and expect to not get destroyed by the sated.

StrayXLSep 6, 20153 votes

If only there was a way to stop them from getting their stacks. Like taking objectives going into their jungle and taking the big neutrals, picking an early game jungler to put pressure on lanes and than pushing for the win, or just make the devourer jungler have a hard time, because Devourer is pretty useless till you get sated or onless they are super feed. YEP To bad there is just no possible way to counter an item that makes a jungler's early game go down the tube. If Only There was such a way ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

RetillinSep 6, 20151 votes

On buy, Devourer is worth more gold than any of the other jungle items right out the gate. Once it gets Sated it is even worse. That is the main problem. For a "late game" item, it is WAY to strong a 5 mins.

ReshiKillimSep 6, 20152 votes

Season 4 jungle was even worse. Feral Flare Udyr was god of Soloque.

StargazerX9Sep 6, 20152 votes

I agree to a certain extent. But this item is 50 times worse. Its only udyr with that problem during that season.(i did find it annoying) Now you have to deal with all kinds of champs that just do too much free damage. No counter play.

KaxiSep 6, 20154 votes

If anything, I found Feral Flare more versatile due to the many different combat stats (and ward) that it gave from Wriggle's Lantern, not just the infinite stacking. If anything, I'd rather have a Devourer jungler on the enemy team/allied team because it does reach a breaking point. The issue is that people need to know when NOT to build Devourer; building a Devourer when the team is losing just makes the game that much harder due to the last of map pressure.

WookieJesuzSep 6, 20151 votes

There is counterplay...

Big LincolnSep 6, 20152 votes

lol?

most people who can solo dragon can do it before they even have a jungle enchant

i don't have too much issue with most sateds. it's a strong item but i have plenty of time to stop them from stacking it

JefftiffySep 6, 20151 votes

The problem with the current jungle, plus they buffed Yi for some strange reason they haven't learned their lesson about buffing Yi, is that the second someone with Sated gets even slightly ahead its over. It's not a scaling item like it should be, its a straight up power spike that scales, so whoever hits it first snowballs whoever hits it second is stuck trying to stall until they can catch up in stacks. I think the solution is to just lower the base damage on devourer, but maybe not touched sateds total damage.

NekusenSep 6, 20151 votes

easy change:

remove bonus magic damage on hit

EievuSep 6, 20151 votes

''no counter play.''

BeatinWarDrumzSep 6, 20151 votes

I dont think it should get DELETED that would destroy shyvana yi and ww, but imo drags should not give as many stacks and it should start out with 25 like before

General MuricaSep 6, 20151 votes

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Seriously, this item has ruin jungle for most in solo q. Most champions can solo drag. No counter play cause these champs do so much dmage with this item. Build armor and or magic resist does not work. Its not even about teamwork anymore. Is just a race to finish the item first. Tank junglars arent even played any more. Cause they are too relient on teamwork. While most chanps like xin can be easy freelo and just rip theough everything. I feel as if skill does not play apart anymore. Bring Season 3-4 jungle back.

Ehm, RG, cinder, war jungs can solo drag 2.

SlaktarTaskenSep 7, 20151 votes

lel even vayne can solo drake with botrk

PoskeSep 6, 20151 votes

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Most champions can solo drag

Lee sin can solo drake at lvl 3 without devourer

Most of jungler can solo drake...early in game

You just have to know how to do it

PlsTouchMeGentlySep 7, 20151 votes

"No counter play"

-_-

Bro, you aren't even spelling things correctly; your post comes off as drunk ramblings. Also, pretty much everything you've said here is wrong. I've beat Xin/Yi/Shyv when they have devourer and we don't have a devourer champ. There is counterplay to all of them. Saying there isn't is just a gross use of hyperbole (if you know what that means, because after reading your post I'm not entirely sure you will).

WolfBVSep 7, 20151 votes

Frozen Heart and zz'rots portal can help.

Kal Vas FlamSep 7, 20151 votes

I don't understand why the don't nerf it's PvP but buff it's PvE like with all the other jg items so far that have been reworked. Keep it's double strike every two attacks against monsters but nerf it to every three attacks against players. It is OP right now anyone who says otherwise is either stupid or trying to protect their freelo. It's not insanely broken, but it is way overtuned.