pls donot change kog maw any further, or if you must, the only thing kog maw needs is old ultimate.
If you put Kog Maw R to pre-5.22, kog maw will (once again) be the best champ in the game. league of legend pls.
Dominick Destine2 votesKog is in a weird spot.
If you have peel, you are playing the most powerful character in the game. If you don't have peel, you are playing utter garbage.
Rebonack1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eKIY9fs4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-12-10T21:51:51.558+0000)
Kog is in a weird spot.
If you have peel, you are playing the most powerful character in the game. If you don't have peel, you are playing utter garbage.
Which is why he should be getting changes that improve his consistency rather than changes that provide additional raw power.
Dominick Destine2 votesWhich is why he should be getting changes that improve his consistency rather than changes that provide additional raw power.
No.
If Kog gets to be more consistent, he would need his power toned down a lot... thus leading to homogenization of ADCs once again.
Rebonack1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eKIY9fs4,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-12-10T22:10:44.163+0000)
No.
If Kog gets to be more consistent, he would need his power toned down a lot... thus leading to homogenization of ADCs once again.
That's exactly what Riot just did with his W change, though.
He got base damage (more consistency) and lost AD scaling (potential late game power).
The trick, then is to find that ideal balance of consistency and power. 's why I think adjusting his base HP up or down depending on how strong he is will likely be the safest way to balance Kog as the meta shifts.
Dominick Destine1 votesSure, granted he got a little bit more consistent in terms of damage but I was talking about more along the lines of Peel.
Kog lives or dies based on how good his peel is... unlike Vayne/Kalista or to a lesser extent even Jinx; Kog doesn't really have a defensive mechanism to get him out of a bad spot, he gets caught and he's fucked so he is more reliant on his team than any other ADC... changing his base HP in my opinion, will not do anything.
I don't want Kog buffed, I don't play ADC but I play support... and when I am Taric, Janna , Braum, Leona or even Lulu... you know someone with decent peel, my Kog players always rape face. But if I see like a Kog with a Sona or Soraka... I know that that kog is boned.
In my opinion, as a non ADC player, he does not need any buffs or changes...
Rebonack1 votesNo to the old Ult.
As much as I loved AP Kog, AP Kog was hell to play against any time he was good. Pushing Koggy's Ult to more of a utility/execute rather than an oppressive poke is a good change.
Depending on how the change to his W pans out, there are a number of things Riot could do with him that would help his early game without having much impact on his late. A big one would be turning his W into a toggle (Koggle-Toggle?) that consumes 5 mana per second. That would allow him to last hit with greater safety.
Boulderox1 voteskogmaw doesn't need any more... he needs to be a glass cannon, a champ that you NEED to care for or lose him in a flash... i don't like the ned kog because all it takes is him to have more lifesteal and a hurricane while the support body blocks you
JohnTheLibrarian1 votesHonestly I might be happier with an all new ult. His ult was never that great IMO.
