mana vs manaless

NoFunWithNunu·1/23/2015, 2:59:43 PM·1 votes·1,644 views

It always bothered how when a manaless champ gets ahead he/she spams happy while you, the poor mana user has to manage your mana and focus on staying alive and also itemize for mana (unless you are adc) on the real talk every manaless champ but garen have been a big issue since its release (and release lee sin)

Aatrox seen in few pro tournaments till his final nerf, like jax if he is ahead you cant 1v1 him and only needs few tanky items, unlimited chasing potential and a second live to fight you, hp costd are high early but late dosnt matter Akali dominant since season 1 and maybe weak mid season 2, you are not safe if she is fed, not even taking your own buff, she can kill you in less than 5 secs and jump over everything that can attack her but structures, requires whole team to kill her since oracle nerf DrMundo dominant at season 1 and early season 3 because he was imposible to kill alone but his early game is really weak if you play agressive agaisnt him, hp costs kill him in a bad shape Elise everyone knows how elise keeps going for you on spider for and kill you if you were nearby 50% HP also how strong she was last season Garen early gamr strong if you are immobile and full melee like jax, late game can be ignored Gnar master of the wombo combo, full combo on mega gnar its garenteed you will die if he has somebody around to do the last blow also hp scales on mega while getting free stats, building 2 damage items and rest tank is all you need to survive in both forms, your only hope is fight around his rage bar and kill him on mini form or else he is 2 tanky, bursty and packed with tons of cc Katarina prime example of toxic and easy gameplay, before kata mains jump on me, check her damagr on ultimate with 700 ap, something possible with dragon and she dosnt need to build mana regen, full cdr with passive allows her to spam almost non stop and kill your own team with simple mistakes on top of that, she can hop over any unit Kennen another fallen star due balance hitting him really hard, he stills do work in this meta, game changing ult, you either face tank his ult and dmg or flash it, not tunned anymore due toxic gameplay LeeSin the new target on forums, the champ, sorry jax, double gap closer,execute on gap closer, shield to ally with gap closer, gets benefits from wards, aoe slow and thr ability to knock a whole team, almost impossible to escape from him, he can duel while tanking and has the mobility to do it, he is what shen should be Mordekaiser the 4v6 champ, we all remember how he could solo teams after killing your adc and taking it as slave this guy cannot be ignored in any meta, if he takes your adc, be ready for a hard fight Nidaleefull ap spear at max range and cat form, you are dead, no questions, pair it with unlimited mobility also ms on bushes RekSai hard to duel, really good power spike and unlimited mobility aslong she has tunnles, almost global ultimate that keeps you exploring your jungle in search of burrows, spam happy champion Renekton the king of top early game, he will dash, stun, spin and get back, he dosnt need rage unless he is going for a kill or sustain, also tanky by default with ultimate, a pain in the nuts no matter the champ Rengar sustain, a pain im the nuts if you walk alone in the jungle, can intakill late game, long stealth, and high burst, also low cooldown and free stats con his unique item, king of backdoor Riven oh the fan service champ, 4 gap closers, high burst and a scaling ad shield, we all know how fast she kills ans late game easy double or triple kill with ultimate, once she is ahead, its right downhill unless other lanes carry you Rumble almost spam happy champ, he is rewarded with damage for spaming, gamechanging ultimate and a dick when he is ahead Shen the fallen ninja tank, we all know how he was must pick must ban in both, pro scene and solo queue, split push master, also rules early game due base damage on vorpal blade, old champ that cannot be balanced without beign toxic, like kennen Shyvana Played a lot in season 3-4, due excesive good trading potential and pushing and free tank stats, hard to gank hard to kill and retains good damage even after building tank has mobility and gap closer wirh kinda hard cc Tryndamere the refuse to die because i can barbarian, free damage stats, gap closet that has cd reduced with criticals, a stat that is a must for him, sustain and lowers your adc ad, if he wants to kill you, he will do it Vladimir we all remember the i cant die vladimir from season 1, even riot stated several times thar vladimir kit is hars to balance without making him op, nowdays free ap from dragon allows him to kill fast without taking a lot of damagr late game, is rewarded by either building ap or hp, endgame he is gonna be hard to kill no matter what you do Yasuo the official league samurai, free shield form walking, can disable a whole team, gets 100% crit really easy, unlimited mobility on minion waves, and a wall that negates most vital skills like ahri charm, his ult allows to keep disabling your team, also gaining more offensive stats that can either instakill your squishy or solo your tank Zac a chance to revive, great engages, self sustain and high mobility, like vlad, you cannot do anything without making him broken Zed Hard to gank, kills fast, clear wave, and double gap closer with the ability to ignore skills for 1 sec, this guy has everything, if everything fails, he can backdoor and you need to send more than 1 to stop him, since he is hard to duel

Again why riot keeps releasing toxic champs, every mana champ gets easy balance just increasing mana costs for example,Darius in order to penta dunk he needa precise use of cooldowns and mana, lacks mobility and requires a large mana pool to do it

Manaless champs are a cancer and require a lot of team effort to sucess against them, god saves you if you finish a team fight low hp with your team and katarina is alive, either run or run since on a normal team fight your team will have 1-2 champs low on mana to waste, and since she can dodge skills with gap closer, better run

I have seen mana champs that dominate, butthey need some mana sustain for that

6 Comments

Sojuorn1/23/2015, 3:04:01 PM1 votes

Why is Nids on the list? Uses mana last I checked.

LeNinjaMaladroit1/23/2015, 3:07:14 PM1 votes

you said manaless champs, nid and elise are both manastarved early

d3r3k1/23/2015, 3:51:31 PM1 votes

I do agree with you here, bro. Sometimes I find myself losing lane (pressure and CS wise) because I have to either back or sacrifice damage for mana when I am not even spamming my abilities. They just outlast you. Sometimes life is not fair :(

The only option is to "be better".

I was playing a rumble as Mao the other day and he literally was just shoowing sh** every chance he got and missed 70% of the time, but because he doesn't get punished for it- it didn't matter. Yes, I could use my passive to heal up but that didn't give me mana back. I had to back about 3 times to get mana and he got advantages over me. Just have to save your mana a lot more and be smarter when going against something like that. It takes that much more skill to overcome that gap.

Womp womp.