Black Cleaver

The Nipple·Apr 28, 2015·1 votes·698 views

Riot has to not change black cleaver or there is gonna be a lot of angry players..... it needs Armour pen that is what makes it a good item!!

5 Comments

Mirage NightApr 29, 20153 votes

I love this new cleaver

It is fucking awesome for AD Casters

Knight SoIaire Apr 28, 20152 votes

but the arpen stays

what is your problem ?

Critmaster GarenApr 28, 20152 votes

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but the arpen stays

what is your problem ?

hes talking about the 10 flat armor pen. i mean it is kindof a shame. those 10 armor pen upfront are more useful than 5% more armor shred on an additional stack. especially against squishies.

i can live without those though, since the mobility passive is going to be huge bonus. just wish it wouldnt lose the armor pen and 10 damage. that kindof hurts. though i guess if you can get more damage in because you can stick better, its still worth.

Knight SoIaire Apr 28, 20152 votes

the riot was going 2 ways

either by making cleaver an instand arpen item or stacking apren item

they noticed that they have loads of instant arpen so they went the other way

that 10 points of arpen would actualy break the item, whether arpen is instant or stacking defines what champions want that item, if both are mixed you get eitehr the master of items or complete crap

Critmaster GarenApr 28, 20151 votes

i like the new cleaver.

im gonna miss those 10 ad though.