Im tired of people pretending that Garen is ok because he's "immobile."

Darius, Illaoi, and Urgot are immobile. Garen is NOT. Have you ever tried to chase a Garen before? Have you ever tried running from a Garen as an ACTUAL immobile champion? The odds are usually in his favor in both scenarios. My complaint with Garen isn't that he simply does too much damage despite being tanky, it's that he's also, IN SPITE OF WHAT PEOPLE CLAIM, very mobile. I'm a player that's okay with Darius, Illaoi, and every other Juggernaut(Except Sett because of his passive regen), so this makes it clear that my issue with Garen is that he has more than tankiness + DMG.

For anyone who doesn't consider Garen to be mobile, just take these facts into consideration. Here's why even a Fizz/Ekko can't successfully chase down a Garen.

Garen with tier 2 boots, Tri-force, and Phantom Dancer has 500 MS for 3.5 seconds, then 422 MS during down time. For reference, melees generally have 385 movespeed with tier 2 boots, so Garen has an additional 115 MS when Q is up and an additional 37 MS when Q is down. Each point of movement speed means a champion moves that many units per second, therefore Garen moves an additional 115 units every second. 115*3.5 = 402, then as Garen waits for his next Q, he still has his additional 37 MS for 7.4(6.4 Q CD + 1 second timeout) seconds. 37x7.4= 273. In 10 seconds, Garen moves an additional 675 units. In 13.5 seconds he moves an additional 1,077 units.

Putting this into context, if an Ekko procced his passive on a Garen and ran away, Garen would catch up in 12 seconds and one shot Ekko anyway.

How do you kite? By CC-ing or being faster. 1. You're not faster than Garen. and 2. Garen scoffs off CC due to innate tenacity. garen is not immobile