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Leeroy Jenkenz1 votes

Those 16 deaths though. Although, those thornmail numbers are insane. It did 1950 of your 2k health, lol.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Those 16 deaths though. Although, those thornmail numbers are insane. It did 1950 of your 2k health, lol.

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dont forget volis passive. it gives him effectively 30% extra health. unless you can nuke him, in the range where it triggers.

edit.: oh, i see what you mean. dont forget, vayne has effectively more than 1900 health with that build. lifesteal skews the values. it might still have done less damage than she healed over the course of the fight. especially since borks %hp damage now triggers lifesteal.

with those hp pools, she healed a crapton of the damage she dealt.

Matezoide1 votes

You got a double kill and won the team fight. Why didnt you focus Vlad instead of the tank Threshthat wasnt even paying attention to you?

If they are getting Thornmail, you should have gone for more life steal or a Banshee's to negate some damage, instead of another BF Sword.

Hell, given the damage death recap says you took and the damage you took from Vlad, i am willing to bet you healed a lot of that Thornmail damage.

I lose my Lane1 votes

I had about 1/2 hp after killing those two, and they didn't even touch me (other than voli's aoe lightning shit) and I had red pot for extra lifesteal

Matezoide1 votes

So you killed two Tanks, healed through half the thornmail damage and won the team fight?

Working as intended. Of course you took heavy damage when you are focusing Thornmail tanks.

UberAffe1 votes

Last Wisper, BotRK, and Mercurial Scimitar Those three combined almost completely negate thornmail.

zane yalgir1 votes

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Last Wisper, BotRK, and Mercurial Scimitar Those three combined almost completely negate thornmail.

duely noted....

op i had a draven gaem where i went 17/13/6 i am by no means good with draven

super bad with his ult and e

lost becuase 3 poeple refused to gorup and basily was a 1v1v1v2v5

me and my supp tired but ya not much to do

IcyPepper1 votes

Almost, but not quite.

Just like how armor can't completely negate attack damage (and shouldn't), lifesteal and magic resist should never completely negate thornmail (or should).

LIfesteal is a defensive stat, so it should be outscaled by thornmail's damage late-game.

Gromp, however, is a whole other issue. I'm starting to think it should be like krugs and just not proc on champions.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Omg, did you tried to 1v5 people again -_-

I lose my Lane1 votes

no, actually the thresh hooked someone else on my team and followed up, killed him first, voli charged for me and I kited his booty, then vlad flanked for the kill

IcyPepper1 votes

Well of course you died then -_-

They ganged up on you and used teamwork to kill you. Your teammates need to protect you (the adc) to prevent this from happening. This is how teamwork works, it has nothing to do with a role being weak.

I lose my Lane1 votes

I was down below to 1/2 hp after not being touched once, then vlad flash ult / e / pool / ludens

IcyPepper1 votes

If you're below 1/2, then of course you're going to be killed easily -_-

How can you expect to survive with no defensive items? That Vlad built pure damage, no wonder he one-shot you if you were below half health. He's an apc, you're an adc. If you're under a certain health threshold, you'll be killed. That's why your teammates need to protect you.

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