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Black Cleaver and Visual Clarity (Debuff Indicator)

BlazingSalvo·5/9/2015, 6:53:41 PM·10 votes·2,352 views

Why did the Black Cleaver rework necessitate removing the armor shred debuff rings? There was something very satisfying about hitting your opponent with a Shock Blast or Razor Shuriken and having those red rings appear along with your damage.

It also gave visual clarity to both teams so you all knew who was debuffed. If I'm Wukong with Cleaver and I ult, my AD carry and other teammates can see the armor shred and know targets are softened. Works for the other team, too. If you get hit by a shock blast by Jayce, you know that at least for 6 seconds you'll be weaker and take bonus damage.

Abyssal puts a ring around everyone affected, including minions. Aegis gives you an icon. Captain gives you an icon. Urgot's passive debuff has that little bubbly particle around damaged enemies. It's all for clarity and better player-to-player interaction, as well as making certain spells and items feel better to use.

Why, then, was Black Cleaver's particles removed? After all, it's armor shred and Wukong, Urgot, and Jarvan shred still supposedly do it. Why is Cleaver different?

EDIT: [image attached]: This is a game of AOE indicators, status effects, etc. a chess board with pieces, everything clearly marked. Riot has done away with "hidden power" in many areas before and added things like indicators to Morgana pool, Cho's rupture, etc. all for the sake of clarity and interaction. I feel like removing the armor shred rings was a mistake or oversight rather than intended.

6 Comments

TehNACHO5/9/2015, 7:14:47 PM8 votes

Well, what's wrong with the shield break icon?

It even comes with its own SFX for hitting max stacks.

LilxPaprika5/9/2015, 10:37:47 PM1 votes

i think it would be cool if there was like some kind of alert or visual when someone applies max stacks against you. Like malphite's passive when it gets destroyed you see rocks crumble to the ground or VI Denting blows you see a shield break animation.
also kind of like how turrets get destroyed progressively.

50West5/10/2015, 12:30:55 AM1 votes

I have no idea what the new BC effects shield means. I don't know why they changed it with the new BC rework and failed to mention anything about the effects. I would prefer the old rings, anyway. The last thing you're going to notice in a teamfight is that tiny little shield.

Puri Puri Taric5/10/2015, 12:30:20 PM1 votes

i found it odd why does rito have different animations for armor shred anyways ? taric has gem splinters old bc has the cicle new bc and tower are almost the same animations for armor reduction.