5.6 Aatrox Buff. What's the devs' goal with it?

Craatrox·3/24/2015, 10:28:54 PM·7 votes·4,679 views

From the patch notes:

Often times Aatrox would find himself wanting to use Dark Flight for a massive knockup into the enemy team, only realizing he didn't have much to be doing once he was in. Whether you're diving the backlines or just brawling the old-fashioned way, Massacre makes sure you've got enough fire in your veins when you decide to dive-kick your way into combat.

Though any buff is appreciated for my favorite champ, I don't really see what the devs are trying to do with it. This buff doesn't really allow Aatrox to do anything he wasn't already doing after initiation. If the Aatrox isn't already at a full Blood Well before a team fight (and any self-respecting Aatrox usually is), initiating with a standard Q->E combo will be sure to get him there.

The only time this buff would really be noticeable is if Aatrox's passive revive is up and, after initiation, he is blown up by the enemy team before even getting to use his ult. At that point, this buff would make sense by getting him back to a relatively full Blood Well in short order after he revives, assuming he can land a good Massacre. Is that all the devs wanted to do? Thanks for looking at him, in any case.

21 Comments

BakedLotion3/24/2015, 10:51:56 PM6 votes

But Aatrox dies before he even finishes his jump l0l This buff ain't gonna do shit

Old Man Teeto3/24/2015, 11:04:46 PM4 votes

This buff is so that a mid-late game Aatrox who is grouped with his team, and likely unable to consistently keep a full bloodpool and full health, can go into a fight and get his passive and thus his damage presence going immediately.

It's a good buff.

JustMyBassCannon3/24/2015, 10:36:02 PM2 votes

...Doesn't his Blood Well only fill up based on how much HP he spends with his health costs? If so, how would a single Q-E fill up his Blood Well?

Yup, I just looked it up, and his Blood Well is based on health spent. His Q costs 10% current HP, his E costs 5% current HP. If you cast his E and Q once each, you spend 14.5% of your current HP; for that to fill his Blood Well, you need 724-6000 HP depending on your level.

If you haven't had a minute or two of free time to build up his Blood Well with W procs, having his ultimate fill his Blood Well is a pretty nice bonus.

Destínum3/24/2015, 11:01:52 PM1 votes

Since the Blood Well is bigger, it means Aatrox can get even more attack speed during his ult from his passive, but rather than being "flat", this attack speed is increased the more people you hit with your ult. So, they simply want to reward you for landing your abilities on many people. At least I'm assuming this is the case, although they never actually stated that the AS cap from his passive will increase with it.

TomA3X3/24/2015, 10:36:24 PM1 votes

I think the plan is, he dives into the team, hits R and does damage, then if he dies, he revives on full health rather than with only a tiny amount.

Spacesuit Spiff3/25/2015, 2:05:43 AM1 votes

Yeah, I think it's to get him back to full blood well after he uses his passive. Not really gamechanging.

The changes to machete that are coming later, on the other hand, might be fantastic for him.

MarshallBananna3/25/2015, 4:20:11 PM1 votes

Maybe they expect you to use it:

a) right at the beginning of a teamfight / right before dying if well is depleted b) save it and use it right after reviving with passive, to be somewhat usefull.

Nightmist Dark4/24/2015, 1:28:02 PM1 votes

wtb more buffs

DaedricTerror138/17/2015, 11:47:00 AM1 votes

Hes fuckign shit either way, they keep changing EVERYTHING EXCEPT WHAT PEOPLE ASK FOR

Make his fucking Q untargetable whilst hes in it there are champs 3x as strong as him thats got uninterruptable leap, hes not so good that he needs this as a crippler infact hes pretty fucking shit.

He also needs to be immune to damage AND cc for 1 mere second AFTER his passive is used so he can at least fight back for one second or attempt to escape, instead of fucking blowing up as usual as people time shit so that the second your out ur insta dead, its a worthless passive.

And I argue even gaurdian angels item should have this little niche change as its the same with that shit aswell.