This master yi shit is over the top now.... nerf like yesterday

Wick3d1·Jan 30, 2015·13 votes·9,598 views

The amount of damage per hit is crazy... a single autoattack dealing enough dmg to take 30-40% off health from a warwick who's considered tanky. Not like yi needs some extensive/expensive build to do it either. Farm 6k to build a shiv and infinity edge and your good to go... it's become plain stupid... just using him is trolling anymore... Yea i know hard CC shuts him down.. but good luck landing it since any seasoned player will dodge your cc skill-shot using Q-Skill. No Ranged ADC can burst down a tanky champion in a few hits, yet yi has no problem doing this... Where is the balance? I've seen Riot nerf champions for far less... I completely feel the frustration others are having when saying they wont play LoL until yi is fixed.

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Only Play DariusJan 30, 20159 votes

A smart ww will destroy yi. All he needs is one other person with him, ult yi and i promise yi will be dead before ww's ult is completed. Yi is incredibly squishy and the only time i see him get pentakills is when the enemy team is full of the kind of players that blow their ult and all their summoner spells in order to chase someone across the entire map. I'm tired of people who cry about Yi calling him easy and OP because he's not, he is hilariously squishy and has serious mana problems. Surviving as master yi requires knowledge on when and how to enter a fight, and you really need to get the timing down on alpha strike and meditation, otherwise you will get vaporized in teamfights before you can get your second basic attack down. The people who cry about Yi are the people who spam their entire ability set on the enemy tank just because Yi is nowhere to be found, and then cry about Yi being OP and impossible to defend against when Master Yi inevitably shows up a few seconds later and gets a quadrakill becuase your entire team is on cooldown for all their abilities. But at least you killed the enemy tank, right?

If yi is such a noob champ why don't you try playing him then? He's 450 IP so you can afford him, and he is a strong jungler since the current meta favors sustain. Then you will see that master yi is actually quite difficult to use against anyone but the most incompetent of league players.

Wanna play a real noob champ? Go play . He's designed for players who are so bad at keeping themselves alive in a fight they need an ult that makes them impossible to kill, even though he is innately tankier than yi. Don't even get me started on the fact that unlike master yi, tryndamere doesn't have mana problems, has 30% free crit, and has a damaging dash move that functions as both a gapcloser and an escape, along with a semi-reliable, yet extremely strong slow (master yi has no CC whatsoever).

Akali is broken because she has a huge amount of built-in spellvamp and hybrid damage, which gives her ridiculous sustain and makes it a headache to itemize against her damage. Zed is broken because he can autoattack you for 700 physical damage AFTER he pops an ult that is capable of killing tanks in one cast. Yi is not broken, you just don't know what you are doing wrong and instead of learning from your mistakes or playing him to discover his weakness, you would rather jump on the "Yi is an OP noob champ" bandwagon. You say others refuse to play until yi gets fixed? Good riddance, players like them who whine about Yi are players who don't care to try different strategies, I don't need them on my team and i'm happy they are out of the matchmaking pool.

INTER5TELLARJan 30, 20152 votes

Agree with all of this. My boss is Diamond V and another co-worker of ours just recently started and was crying about Yi. My boss explained to him pretty much everything you said and went on to say that he never saw a Yi past high silver, etc. Yi does steamroll teams, but needs to be: a. really competent with yi b. against bad players who engage at poor times c. fed a few kills early etc. That said, most higher elo players shut him down and he's pretty uncommon way up there.

Lastly, YES to Trynd-o being a noobish champ. If you played him 10 matches in a row or 100 matches in a row, your level of knowledge on Trynd will change very little. He doesn't require a lot of skill to play, just a fair matchup up top to get some feed and then it's towerdive after towerdive after towerdive for his enemy laner. Not only is he hella easy to roll a team with, but he's extremely frustrating to play against, too.

Only Play DariusJan 30, 20153 votes

Nothing like a full build Tryndamere that can literally kill you in 2 autoattacks. You can't burst him down like Yi because he's just going to pop his ultimate. You can't run away from him like you can from Yi because his slow is ridiculously strong. And in the offchance that you do manage to get him scared, he's just going to walk over to a wall and do that stupid looking spin dash to get away, and if you aren't playing a mobile champ then you just got screwed out of a kill. And in teamfights you have to treat him like a tank because his ult will make you waste all the abilities you use on him. So you are forced not to focus him, despite him being capable of killing squishies in 2 hits and killing tanks in 6.

Definitely the most frustrating champ to have to play against, especially in solo queue where there is no voice chat to setup a strategy to deal with him in teamfights. Every champion has their place and purpose, and tryndamere is no exception, honestly what really infuriates me is that Yi gets so much shit for being "Easy" "Nooby" "OP", when still exists in his current form. One game i played as mastery Yi, was doing well, and the enemy tryndamere called ME out on picking a noob champ that is easy to use and dominate with. Yes, he actually said that. I also too often see tryndamere players who charge straight forward to Garen Chogath , attack them, get bursted down like it's nothing, then proceed to cry in /allchat about their ult not working. Fine specimens like these unfortunately set the standard for what I expect from an average tryndamere player.

INTER5TELLARJan 30, 20152 votes

I hear "ult didn't go off" at least once every match there's a Trynd-o

AgentRivalMar 14, 20171 votes

I know this is EXTREMELY late, but is not a noob champ is any way. He is very easy to beat in lane, people just don't seem to know how to. These people enemy Trynds stack free fury, and then complain as to why they got killed. In lower elos, Tryndamere players are unskilled and don't use the champion like they should be, they don't know his limits. Any good player in higher elos will tell you that he is quite difficult to pull off. If you think is a noob champ, MasterYi should be considered completely the same.

Sir WesleyMay 2, 20161 votes

I disagree. Yi is one of the strongest champions currently in League of Legends. His early game is lacking in terms of damage, however his snowball potential is far too over the top for his kit to be considered "balanced". Riot is too scared to nerf any champion because of item buffs for some reason. They think that devourer on Yi doesn't mean that Yi needs a nerf and because of this his free Auto-Attack resetting passive is just too strong. Getting Rageblade and any Hydra weapon makes him either too tanky to easily deal with, or have far too much lifesteal to be able to cause any damage. Master Yi is a pick or ban champion and this is not okay. Just because "the pros" don't like to play him doesn't mean he isn't strong. Riot's constant baby sitting of the High ELO and Professional players alienates anyone below Diamond. My friend's list is dropping like flies because of this. They are tired of having to either ban a really easy champion, or play them and just be bored.

Regardless of what anyone says about "Balanced" champions, League of Legends is still a GAME and I play games to have fun. Champions like Master Yi make me not have fun. So I play League less because of them.

XemeronJan 30, 20157 votes

Meanwhile, ADCS can do the same without having to be in melee range

ComeOnAndSlamJamJan 30, 20154 votes

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TrentBatNAJan 30, 20151 votes

This^

Only Play DariusJan 30, 20152 votes

One of the many ways you can kill Master Yi.

GekkousamaJan 30, 20152 votes

Remove the true damage change to magic or physical. Problem solved.

Kuroi86Jan 30, 20152 votes

So he hit you with a Q Crit plus Double Strike Crit with Shiv. After that, he's pretty much fodder to be fed on, especially for a decently built WW.

Only Play DariusJan 30, 20151 votes

That's what I'm saying, a surpression like WW's would completely shutdown master yi, especially if there are any teammates in the vicinity. Not even mentioning the fact that WW is a useable tank, so items like thornmail and frozen heart would not only screw with yi, but still be useful for WW in the long run. Lots of people don't understand that when you build armor, not only do you take a significantly reduced amount of damage, but you also minimize the amount of healing enemies get from lifesteal, and lifesteal is a stat that is critical for Master Yi (at least as far as the faceroll pentakill builds are concerned)

TiaxJan 30, 20152 votes

Players like Jelly is why he won't be nerfed and I can play him every game if I want. Je suis "smart players". I'm laughing straight to the bank. Granted Yi is far from a free win like some adc mains like to complain, he is still ridiculous. The highest ranked one trick pony in Korea (challenger) was a Yi for a good while... Challenger and Master KR would ban it whenever he was on that's how good a strong Yi is. Try that for incompetent players

Only Play DariusJan 30, 20151 votes

Go ahead, play him every game if you want to. Because of his ludicrous squishiness, you learn a lot by playing Master Yi, like how to assess a situation, when and when not to enter a fight, who to target first, how to dodge skillshots, when to disengage etc. Anyone can smurf and buy yi off the bat to faceroll level 7 players to oblivion (it's a huge problem in super low elo just like katarina, i will admit that), but to do well as Master Yi against anyone who has been playing for more than 3 months, let alone people in master/challenge tiers, takes an extreme amount of skill, dedication, and practice. As such, it should be rewarding and satisfying to anyone who has gotten that good with Master Yi.

TiaxJan 30, 20151 votes

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Go ahead, play him every game if you want to. Because of his ludicrous squishiness, you learn a lot by playing Master Yi, like how to assess a situation, when and when not to enter a fight, who to target first, how to dodge skillshots, when to disengage etc. Anyone can smurf and buy yi off the bat to faceroll level 7 players to oblivion (it's a huge problem in super low elo just like katarina, i will admit that), but to do well as Master Yi against anyone who has been playing for more than 3 months, let alone people in master/challenge tiers, takes an extreme amount of skill, dedication, and practice. As such, it should be rewarding and satisfying to anyone who has gotten that good with Master Yi.

I considered saying that Yi is as easy as point and click but not nearly as simple, far from it actually. He may not be dependent on mechanics (although having them helps a ton) but but like you said he has to play very strategically smart, more than the typical champ imo. But yeah people just love to bash Yi players and consider them noobs. And you don't need to tell me to go ahead and play him every game, I picked him up with s5 Jung release and played 80ish games of it by the end of the season

OriannaMontanaSep 15, 20152 votes

So true i was just against a master Yi he wasnt even fed! But his damage holy fcking sh*t! His entire team was crap BUT THAT DOESENT MATTER BECAUSE MASTER YI IS MASTER YI! I was more fed than him.. like double the kills and i couldnt take him down! Riot is just retarded atm..

JamareeJan 30, 20151 votes

He has always been like this, now he just does true damage.

xInkredibleJan 30, 20151 votes

What is cc.

WenderwallJan 19, 20161 votes

I play master yi all the time and he is squishy. Single CC or slow and he is dead doesn't matter what level. I died way too many times to realize Yi should never dive 1st or 2nd in a team fight. Yi is probably the weakest in terms on ability and true damage is one in 4 hits.

If you are facing an enemy team Yi.. stun him, kill him and then their adc. Yeah i have seen too many games ( my team + opponent) where they target tanks :/

( I used Yi build on machine gun lulu and get similar results, except that lulu has annoying abilities for stun, poke, peel, silence, slow .. you name it)

OutlawingMar 21, 20161 votes

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The amount of damage per hit is crazy... a single autoattack dealing enough dmg to take 30-40% off health from a warwick who's considered tanky. Not like yi needs some extensive/expensive build to do it either. Farm 6k to build a shiv and infinity edge and your good to go... it's become plain stupid... just using him is trolling anymore... Yea i know hard CC shuts him down.. but good luck landing it since any seasoned player will dodge your cc skill-shot using Q-Skill. No Ranged ADC can burst down a tanky champion in a few hits, yet yi has no problem doing this... Where is the balance? I've seen Riot nerf champions for far less... I completely feel the frustration others are having when saying they wont play LoL until yi is fixed.

Completely agree the champion is broken and mainly played in low elo never in lcs so theres no reason to keep him strong like that for professional purposes. He cant be slowed while ulting so when a adc sees him they may aswell tab out and wait until they respawn. The champion is broken and high elo players will call us bad but thats the reason your high elo and hes not played in your ranks.

LesFrictionAug 5, 20161 votes

You know what I love? Every time the public calls for a nerf on a OP AF champ, a few others are like "well play this champ or that champ and gg" naming off a couple at most 4 champs. Why do you literally need to play 3-6 champs out of 123 just to counter one chanp...? Stop being stupid. Champs that can walk around and stand there and swing and build tank and swing out slaughter an entire team needs nerfs. League community....stop supporting champs you rank in just because you can rank with them and start trying harder to create a real, skilled, balanced League of Legends.

SlashStrikerMar 14, 20171 votes

If we reduce Yi's Damage will we give him extra mobility like Ward / ally unit Jumps like Lee sin and Jax? Or maybe more reliable way to harass his opponents without exposing himself to danger?

Or we just gonna nerf him while ignoring all his other problems?