Can we talk about how safe most mages are?

qNxYrClark·Jul 19, 2019·3 votes·1,232 views

Mages are probably the safest class in the game right now and have literally no drawbacks to them.

It's obnoxious how mages such as Ahri, Lux, Xerath, Syndra, never really lose out on anything from a bad trade the way other champs do. Fucking high range, often longer than that of the turrets themselves, and skillshots which never cause them to run out of mana from the moment they pick up a ].

Even an assassin such as Talon, Katarina, or even a fucking LeBlanc loses something from a bad trade but your average mage? Nah, miss your skillshot and it doesn't matter coz now you can farm from under turret with no risk of a dive coz you can always try to hit your low cooldown stun/root and run back in joy.

I'd rather face a Yasuo or an Akali in the mid lane in this day and age than an Ahri who decides she's gonna play it safe and go back under her turret in case she misses her charm.

11 Comments

ZardoJul 19, 20195 votes

Depends on your definition of safe. Safe as in if they get caught they're going to survive? No, they're generally the most vulnerable to all ins out of all other mid laners. Safe as in they aren't feast or famine? Yeah, they aren't, but they sacrifice tons of early power for the safety of being effective without generating a lead. They also don't really ever scale up in the 1v1 either, so they're almost always going to be outdueled by assassins, their strength comes from teamfighting.

A Satanic VerseJul 19, 20195 votes

What the hell kind of world are you livin boy?

Linda de MolJul 20, 20194 votes

I play Velkoz and only need 1 grab by Blitzcrank Thresh Pyke and its over

BoRnToKiLL666Jul 19, 20193 votes

mages are safe?

[sg-lux-2]

Zero ShingetsuJul 20, 20192 votes

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mages are safe?

[sg-lux-2]

Had some contrary experiences you'd like to share, there, Lux?

Tuition FeeJul 19, 20193 votes

If you miss a skillshot, you die. You don't get to move fast enough to run under turret, unless the assassin is jerking off, because assassins have insane gap closers and many meta champions nowadays have nutty mobility.

HP CrookshanksJul 19, 20192 votes

Mages are not safe because they are immobile and squishy. If you miss your cc as a mage you are dead.

Ahri is safe because she is an assassin.

qNxYrClarkJul 19, 20191 votes

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Zero ShingetsuJul 20, 20195 votes

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Ahri is, in fact, an assassin by definition. She inflicts huge burst damage by firing her abilities in a specific sequence (E -> Q -> W) and can reliably get out after she's done so, but has little health. This is classic assassin play. Contrast this to, say, Annie. Annie wears enemies down from range and has no reliable escapes. She has the artillery spec, but if you get close, she only has a way out of her stun is up. That's a mage.

Can Ahri play as a mage? Sure, but her artillery damage isn't high enough to compete with actual mages, and her E is completely useless unless she's in very tight quarters with a champion. She's only doing noteworthy damage if she executes her combo. Think on other assassins. Katarina, Akali, Nidalee, Talon... They all have a combo. They get in close, fire off their combo, and get out. I can't think of another mage that plays like that. Ahri is definitely an assassin.

Hordes66Jul 20, 20191 votes

Ahri is safe because she has an overbuffed kit with 4 easy buttons on it.

Ahri BakaJul 20, 20191 votes

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Mages are not safe because they are immobile and squishy. If you miss your cc as a mage you are dead.

is safe because she is an assassin.

Ahri isn't an assassin tho And no she isn't safe if her ult is down