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Ranked is For Learning, Not For Ignorant Fun

TEASlNG··2 votes·569 views

If someone is willing to spend even 20 seconds of their life to tell you something to make you a better player in RANKED, and you tell them that you don't want to be coached or you are playing for fun, ranked is not for you. Playing ranked is about trying to improve your game, and everything for the win. If people can't get over their dumb pride and admit that their wrong they will never learn. Can Rito just make your normal elo visible or something so people can stop having an obsession for this number that ranked provides. I am sure you are having fun with your 1000 games in silver, but from a utilitarian prospective by you refusing to learn from your mistakes you are ruining the game for 80% of your team. Its not like I go into games saying GG NOOB or call anyone names, but if I give you a helpful hint to maybe avoid dying don't spit in my face and be a child about it.

Winning sometimes means admitting you are making mistakes and learning from those mistakes will allow you to become a better player. We all have our pride, but is defending your pride anonymously behind a computer screen to someone you may never see again in your life worth more than winning? If the answer is yes then please play normal matches until you realize that ranked has a different feel to it. When you are ready to embrace that different feel, bring a different mentality to the game.

Go out there and fail, fail hard, but remember how you failed every time and try to curve it from happening again. If someone takes time to try and help you it means they care about you becoming better (if they didn't care they would just mute you and tell the enemy team how terrible you are before surrendering), its purely selfish in intent because they want to win, but its okay for you to take advantage of their knowledge and become a better player. I am not asking everyone to be amazing at the game, I am asking everyone to act rationally towards their teammates good will in order to win a game; then never see each other again potentially.

TL;DR Ignoring mistakes means you never get any better, if you are not doing everything in your power to win stay out of ranked. Remember your decisions directly effect how 4 (potentially 9) people will feel about you, and the community as a whole.

23 Comments

Legostrike5 votes

The message ignoring mistakes is not the way to play ranked is fine.

However,

you tell them that you don't want to be coached or you are playing for fun, ranked is not for you. Playing ranked is about trying to improve your game, and everything for the win.

If i wanted that I would turn to life. I'm playing a game and the point is to have fun no matter how competitive. for me the fun is the competitiveness so I work to improve my game, but again, game.

Epilogue of Life1 votes

Then play normal games, or find yourself another game. Some people like me feel like winning is the biggest fun of all, and losing, regardless of what happened during the game, is the least "fun". You can always respect other concepts of fun by staying out of the games of those who strive to win.

Legostrike1 votes

Oh I strive to win man, but winning is not my world. If the loss is inevitable, sure I'll be disappointed but you know what, at that point it's just time to forget the game and see if there's anything you can improve on. Heck, if your team is jovial enough we can all just go ridiculous for the Lols.

But if a win is in my sight it's my passion.

Epilogue of Life1 votes

If a loss is inevitable then just ff and start another game.

Legostrike1 votes

....Why? If ridiculousness is found in an appropriate setting then let the lols roll.

Epilogue of Life1 votes

because for some people winning/#rekting the enemy is the only fun...if the game is a lost game, then I'd much rather start another game that I have a chance of winning, and you should have the decency to respect it.

Legostrike1 votes

It's not like I'm saying no on the surrender screen, but its also not like I'm upset at ridiculousness.

Epilogue of Life1 votes

People would be upset no matter what if it was a lost game, trolling just increases toxicity, and that leads to crybabies wanting people banned...

Legostrike1 votes

You seem to be playing with different people then I....

Epilogue of Life1 votes

face it, if you were a ADC Leblanc and lost bot, you'd get a lot more flames than a Jinx that loses

Legostrike1 votes

I don't think you understand me....

I play ranked seriously. I don't screw around with meta breaking builds or comps unless it's normals with my friends. Ranked is indeed, the only way in my life I feel I can do anything.

However, I don't let that take the fun out of ranked, and if it's the final minutes of the game and we're pushed back to base and the other team is astronomicly ahead, that is when I take a step back and say to myself, "just a game." From that point there are two options, play it out whilst evaluating myself, or if your team is fun enough and willing, everyone screws around until the game's over. Sometimes even the enemy team.

Epilogue of Life1 votes

Never understood the concept of playing around in LoL, the goal is to win, and if you can't win the game loses its meaning completely.

Legostrike1 votes

Then why call it a game if it's a job? Why play in the first place? It's entertainment. To take it to the extreme destroys its very point.

Epilogue of Life1 votes

entertainment only comes in the form of victory for me.

Legostrike1 votes

Well, that's for you, but if I run into another 4 people on my team who think more like me, why not enjoy ourselves if victory cannot be snatched? If the team doesn't want to, that's fine with me, I'll just continue playing.

MrSc0tty4 votes

To me, ranked is how I get little rewards at the end of the year.

I shoot up to gold v and promptly sit there.

Does this make you angry, sirrah?

Drunk Rummate2 votes

Games mean different things to different people. Your rank will include and reflect your philosophical approach to gaming. Not everyone feels the same way as you do. The sooner you learn to accept this the happier you will be as a person.

Alljoy1 votes

It's futile to offer help to people in YoloQ, ranked or otherwise, even if your intention is to help them because chances are they can and usually will take it the wrong way and quite possibly turn toxic thereby making your situation potentially worse. There's an asian saying that goes along the lines of playing the Shamisen to a cow, and this would probably be it.

Besides, why bother putting yourself out there when you'll probably never see them again.

Epilogue of Life1 votes

对牛弹琴 does not really apply to this. The cow merely doesn't understand. What we have here is more like teaching calculus to a writer/artist; they will not only be confused, but also greatly vexed by what you are saying.

Sightless661 votes

I agree that people shouldn't look past their mistakes and that they should try to learn and become better. That said, I do have a few objections to a few of the specifics of your post. You're saying that people aren't learning from their mistakes because they don't like them to be brought up. There are a few responses I have to this.

First, you don't know whether or not they are learning from their mistakes. There are a lot of times I make mistakes and I know it immediately. Bringing it up doesn't help.

Second, are you sure you're actually being helpful? About 80% of the time, the advice is just something along the lines of "die less" or "you need to watch the map more". And that's the people who aren't just saying "lol, map awareness" or something stupid like that. Related to that, why should I trust your advice? You were put in the same game I was. Why should I think you know any better than me? I've played some smurf games in Silver and I've seen people giving the most idiotic advice to their teammates when they screwed up.

The thing is, a lot of the time when people give "advice", they are really just pissed off and venting at the guy who made a mistake. In my experience, most of the time when people give advice, they use it as a way to get a subtle jab at the other person. You make a point that people should try to watch their actions to influence how the rest of the players will feel about them. That applies to the people who are giving advice as well. Make an effort to not be hostile, and you'll be putting more effort into your advice than most are.

If the answer is yes then please play normal matches until you realize that ranked has a different feel to it.

Eh. It's the same game. Always feels exactly the same, be it ranked or normals. Only difference is who you get matched with.

FyshinaTux1 votes

Eh. It's the same game. Always feels exactly the same, be it ranked or normals. Only difference is who you get matched with.

I disagree, with the promo matches being one example, the MIND-game of ranked vs normals is COMPLETELY different for some (if not most) people.

I, for one, feel a great deal more stress about whether I'm going to have a troll/afk'er (don't much care about feeders, that can be overcome easily enough if I deserve to climb) in ranked than I do in normals, ESPECIALLY if I'm about to head into a promo game.

Sightless661 votes

Fair enough, but I don't get the same feeling. I don't feel any more stress because whether I win or lose any particular game isn't really that important to me. Say I do get an afk. It had to happen eventually, and it ultimately benefits my elo gains because it will happen to my enemies more often than it will to me. It's annoying, but it would be annoying in normals too just because it wastes my time.

Promo matches are a bit difference, but that's more of a vague annoyance at a silly gate than actual stress.

You do make a fair point, and it's a valid feeling to have. I just can't really empathize with it. At best, all I can say is that I find promo games kind of silly.

TEASlNG1 votes

Yeah I try not to be toxic, and its always helpful stuff like if they are losing lane I will try to give them more insight on the champion they are playing and how they can use that against them to counter them. It's not even worth mentioning to people you should ward more =/ they wont do it. Yes I was smurfing in silver, that was what inspired this post and there was a jax top who was starting to get beat by garen even though I explained to him how he could counter him with ease into mid game. Then he just started to ignore all the advice I was giving him directly telling him how to counter what was happening and he was just null to the whole idea and eventually gave up. The fact that the majority of my team spoke in broken English didn't help either. As for the bringing up mistakes thing psychology would say otherwise about your claim that it doesn't help. It allows for deeper reflection when someone else notices your mistake and calls you out on it. It really is just summed up by an equation involving mistakes made, tolerance to criticism, how prideful they are, overall competence, and how well they communicate with team.

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