but the int thing was wen alistar die in start wen thay invade so the int thing was just for fun. but for real say one thing and get ban i just think riot need to make the system better
Rester1 votesRiot has a Zero-Tolerance policy, cmon now. Suggesting anything like "kys" or any form of suicide is sure to raise a red flag, including homophobic slurs or otherwise.
Azadethe1 votesZero tolerance for free speech but ofc they'll take your money.
I understand guiding sportsmanship and trying to create tolerance and a positive atmosphere, but there's a reason the US had speak-easies in the Prohibition, and there were sympathizers during the Holocaust, and a resistance during every source of free speech governance. When it goes too far, it creates a much more toxic and dangerous environment out of protest than having a moderate policy that everyone understands.
Sometimes the current riot rules are not "human" rules. They're tighter than rules that any other game that aspire to be sports in the name of sportsmanship. They're tighter ToS than any program that aspires to be a game for fun has. They've brought it to a point where they have 0 tolerance for anyone, and bet on keeping their player base through addiction, rather than Sportsmanship. Those players who actually play this game enough to invest in it, can spend $1000+, get banned, and Riot knows most of them will just build another account. They will respend on the next account, and Riot will "pretend" that the argument that money matters in preserving an account is a negligible one in the face of "a standard of perfection."
I'm not bringing that up to argue that money does indeed matter, but rather, that the "standard of perfection" coupled with money is creating a dangerous precedence: A player base of addicts who know fully well they can get banned for being human, so they spend less, they care less, and make more accounts, act more toxic as a result of the policy. Sometimes, they just get creative and feed/bait fights in ways that won't pull up as positives to the automatic feedback system but ruin the game for everyone else, because Riot ruined the experience for them after they got punished for a human experience. And it's not hard. All they have to do is auto farm down a lane while they are feeding. Auto farm a jungle. Avoid just pure running down a lane and feeding and you're good. Ask questions which elicit toxic responses, and you're good. Just ignore all objectives and make sure you're at the other side of the map whenever they are happening. It's not hard at all to troll this game without getting caught. In fact, it's easy to get other people banned.
TL:DR: Over-regulation results in unregulated but nonetheless intentional behavior which hurts other player's experience more than the initial regulation did. Riot's rules are stricter than ever, but as a result, their player base is at its most toxic due to the system.
CamilleRule342 votesZero tolerance for free speech but ofc they'll take your money.
I understand guiding sportsmanship and trying to create tolerance and a positive atmosphere, but there's a reason the US had speak-easies in the Prohibition, and there were sympathizers during the Holocaust, and a resistance during every source of free speech governance. When it goes too far, it creates a much more toxic and dangerous environment out of protest than having a moderate policy that everyone understands.
Sometimes the current riot rules are not "human" rules. They're tighter than rules that any other game that aspire to be sports in the name of sportsmanship. They're tighter ToS than any program that aspires to be a game for fun has. They've brought it to a point where they have 0 tolerance for anyone, and bet on keeping their player base through addiction, rather than Sportsmanship. Those players who actually play this game enough to invest in it, can spend $1000+, get banned, and Riot knows most of them will just build another account. They will respend on the next account, and Riot will "pretend" that the argument that money matters in preserving an account is a negligible one in the face of "a standard of perfection."
I'm not bringing that up to argue that money does indeed matter, but rather, that the "standard of perfection" coupled with money is creating a dangerous precedence: A player base of addicts who know fully well they can get banned for being human, so they spend less, they care less, and make more accounts, act more toxic as a result of the policy. Sometimes, they just get creative and feed/bait fights in ways that won't pull up as positives to the automatic feedback system but ruin the game for everyone else, because Riot ruined the experience for them after they got punished for a human experience. And it's not hard. All they have to do is auto farm down a lane while they are feeding. Auto farm a jungle. Avoid just pure running down a lane and feeding and you're good. Ask questions which elicit toxic responses, and you're good. Just ignore all objectives and make sure you're at the other side of the map whenever they are happening. It's not hard at all to troll this game without getting caught. In fact, it's easy to get other people banned.
TL:DR: Over-regulation results in unregulated but nonetheless intentional behavior which hurts other player's experience more than the initial regulation did. Riot's rules are stricter than ever, but as a result, their player base is at its most toxic due to the system.
If you think telling someone to kill themselves is protected by the bill of rights you need to do some serious research my dude. Its a crime, its not protected by the first amendment, its illiciting suicide, which you can get charged with 2nd degree murder if the person actually does it and its linked back to you.
Azadethe1 votesIf you think telling someone to kill themselves is protected by the bill of rights you need to do some serious research my dude. Its a crime, its not protected by the first amendment, its illiciting suicide, which you can get charged with 2nd degree murder if the person actually does it and its linked back to you.
Telling someone to kill themselves is not the only statements or actions which gets people banned. Sometimes it's things as simple as raging at people for "being a jungler but being at top farming Krugs literally every time a Drake spawns" or feeding 0/7 and not taking accountability and making excuses. Sometimes, a person just gets upset at the level 1 promises to get armor penetration and grievous wounds, only to have a Vlad or Darius go 20/2 because the very team who promised to get those items, didn't and instead fed on a full AD build.
And, saying an acronym for "Kill Yourself" might violate a game's ToS, but it doesn't meet a Freedom of Speech test, in that It's not considered strong enough or in most cases insistent enough to be considered a violation of freedom of speech. if you Stalked the person, persistently prescribed suicide, through reluctance, then yes. it would cross that line. In a game where it's said once or twice, it merely violates a ToS, because the context is "Close enough" that Game companies don't want to deal with the Liability.
Noteworthy point: I too usually report KYS spammers. It's one area of speech chat that I generally don't agree with and usually is accompanied by much more graphic statements.
CamilleRule341 votesALso free speech has nothing to do with anything on any video game because your 'free speech' is there to protect the government from coming down and punishing you for saying something, reporting an issue, or protesting. The first amendment, an american law, doesn't protect you from getting banned from a video game because you can't just pony the fuck up and not say stupid shit.
There is no justification for what you have to say. You're a snowflake throwing a tantrum because you're barred from saying hurtful shit on a video game.
