I was playing Elise the other day and noticed that when I repelled on a graves smoke screen I was still blinded by the smoke screen. This is only a minor detail but I don't think I should be blinded by something on the ground when I am way above it. This also really messed with the functionality of the e as I wasn't able to pick a target to jump to because of the blind.
Hotarµ7 votesI think it's just because Elise's model is still in the AOE of the smokescreen. I agree it should be changed, that and Yasuo's interaction with Poppy and Nautilus' ults.
Faced3 votesYasuo's wind wall blocks projectiles. I don't think subsurface abilities count (poppy/naut ult)
ModAcademy Kayn4 votesExcept Game wise, it's still a projectile. Realistically, Tristana should jump over abilities and ground AOEs, but she still get's hit because there is no Z axis. There is no such thing as a subsurface ability in terms of a game term. It's a projectile, the animation just isn't of one.
floo1 votesIf there was, 
would be immune to everything that wasn't a subsurface ability in her E lol
ModAcademy Kayn1 votesOh god.
Hotarµ2 votesYeah, as Academy Kayn said, both of those subsurface/non-projectile ultimates are still classified as projectiles and get blocked by windwall.
Z3Sleeper3 votesProjectile = Projectile. No way around it. Above, below, through the shadow realm, doesn't matter. Poppy gets blocked.
However, Naut ult is not a projecitile.
Hotarµ1 votesIt should follow that logic, then.
Nautilus' ult is a wave/geyser coming from below and Poppy's ult is a shockwave that comes from below. Yet, one gets a pass and the latter gets blocked because...?
Daelmonos2 votesIt's how Nauts ult is coded, it creates explosions at set intervals towards the targeted champion.
Z3Sleeper3 votesNautilus ult just isn't a projectile. It's not a shockwave it's a series of intermittent explosions in the direction of the target.
It's just not coded as one. There's no moving projectile.
Hammermancer4 votesever try to Gnar hop over cait/jinx traps?
Faced3 votesThis man is a prophet, i agree 100%. Anything to mess with graves.
Tormentula1 votesyea its the main reason graves kinda counters Elise. If he put the screen in the middle, it treats if as you're in that location and blinded by it, much like fizz shouldn't have full vision when he uses E in the smoke or if you zhonya's inside it. Elise visually goes up but in reality her position is the exact same due to no Y axis in league (much like trist can't jump over cait traps), there's not jumps or leaps its just simply "untargetability" and blinds aren't canceled by it.
But hey, at least volatile spiderling ignores windwall so its not all bad.
KFCeytron1 votesThere is no such thing as "above," and you were still in the smokescreen, just untargetable. And he didn't target you; you were just in a low-visibility area. This is similar to if someone used Ignite on you before you rappelled: you would go untargetable, but you would still be on fire.
Saezio1 votesThere is no such thing as "above," and you were still in the smokescreen, just untargetable. And he didn't target you; you were just in a low-visibility area. This is similar to if someone used Ignite on you before you rappelled: you would go untargetable, but you would still be on fire.
is there no such thing as above? I mean, cant a ziggs bomb bounce above you?
KFCeytron1 votesis there no such thing as above? I mean, cant a ziggs bomb bounce above you?
That's right; there's no such thing as "above." Ziggs' Q going over your head is just a visual effect to allow players to mentally connect the three locations the spell can hit. However, I recall that his ult is hard-coded to not be blocked by interception effects like Braum's shield. Ordinarily, though, it's possible to see things like Tristana jumping over a Thresh ult and getting hit by it anyway.
Saezio1 votesThat's right; there's no such thing as "above." Ziggs' Q going over your head is just a visual effect to allow players to mentally connect the three locations the spell can hit. However, I recall that his ult is hard-coded to not be blocked by interception effects like Braum's shield. Ordinarily, though, it's possible to see things like Tristana jumping over a Thresh ult and getting hit by it anyway.
yeah, i know it actually just has 3 aoe circles that have gaps between them. Not the best way to describe it I know just wanted to spice the conversation a bit
KFCeytron1 votesyeah, i know it actually just has 3 aoe circles that have gaps between them. Not the best way to describe it I know just wanted to spice the conversation a bit
https://66.media.tumblr.com/a42a6ac560e4878e06fdfe2503686f8f/tumblr_ndlkohPgNp1tyhayao1_400.gif
ModAcademy Kayn1 votesHis ult is just a giant ground AOE, think like Cho'gaths Q was it? Whatever his knock up is.
Hotarµ1 votesYou're technically correct, but that's just a visual effect that Riot added in for clarity + immersion(? I guess that's the best word to use here) and the ability doesn't actually go above your model.
Even1 votesI made this same post a few months ago, no changes
BestPudgeNA1 votesIt's not something they can change because of how the game is coded
Warlord Rhinark1 votesIt's not something they can change because of how the game is coded
They can just, you know, make Elise count as untargetable during her E.
Fizz doesn't get affected by Graves W during his E (as far as I know), so they can just make it so Elise doesn't either.
FOR JUSTICE1 votesleague has no z axis, therefore you were never "above" it, its just a visual animation.
hence why things up in the air can still be hit by cc, like tristana jump.
XDargosX1 votesI think the same thing.. please give Elise some quality of life buffs to her E. One thing that always bothered me was the fact that champs like sej, can dash though any wall, but Elise cant repel over it without a target? guess it would make it to op? but yea please give her rapel some buffs so I can at least see in graves blind thing. Would be helpful
