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The Exillic·1/25/2018, 7:16:33 AM·2 votes·454 views

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ORNN

Nerfs for Ornn were uh.. unfair. I mean Riot even said in the lore that he's a freaking god, so I mean... to be fair, when you nerf him, was he demoted from God to Demigod? Or like... what's up with that, cuz I thought he was just supposed to be this brutal beefy tanky godly god champ. You know? Like I don't really understand why he got nerfed like that.

Like just wait for him to use his W then use some cc on him, like it's not that hard, and if you gang up on him, especially in the early game, he's not so tough to beat. Sure he's a beast, sure he's probably still a beast, but I don't like when Riot takes away stuff like that, really uncool.

Just sayin.

Had to get that off my chest and post it here to see what kind of reactions I get,

Here comes to the toxic community responses.

--------- EDIT ----------- Nerfs for Ornn weren't unfair. They were justly deserved, as I have been informed, and rather as it has been brought to a more conscious level of my thought, I have realized that he was pretty secure as a champion. (by which I mean he was really super safe and almost protected by way of his kit if you knew how to use him and that posed a problem in some sense)

I really personally just didn't like that they nerfed his W so there's no immovable status anymore (or whatever that is called, where he isn't effected by cc). I wish that they would have nerfed him in a different way. I felt like that W brittle + immovable was just a really nice touch for his kit and unique to his champion I guess. (I guess you could really just say that it's just a personal problem)

8 Comments

nelogis1/25/2018, 7:51:05 AM3 votes

YoU hEFf AbSOLutELy No IdeA yOU sILvEr ScrUB!!!ii!I

There is your "toxic community" response

Now to a more constructive response

  • The lore of a champion has absolutely nothing to do on how he should be balanced. Bard could literally erase Ornn out of existance in the lore.
  • Have you played anything else but Tanks and poke champs top recently? it is a nightmare to deal with... You are not alone in saying that Ornn got nerfed the "wrong" way. But he needed that nerf (and he still needs more nerfs along with Mao). Actually everything in this game needs nerfs all across the board.
  • Ornn and other tanks in that regard should NEVER be able to win lane. They are a scaling class, tanks scale WAY better than Bruisers into late game. But right now tanks are stomping on bruisers and bruisers are THE class to win the lane! Tanks are not just winning the lane, no they are winning the lane against champions designed to win the laning phase?!

Top is a mess right now and Ornn is one of the champions making it a mess

deathgod51/25/2018, 9:58:49 AM2 votes

The problem I have with they argument of just hold your skillshot is a technique I call holding.

Holding is a technique where you simply not use your spells to deter other players from engaging on you. a good example of this is Gnar; a good Gnar knows when to use his e offensively and defensively. Once he uses it he is as good as death if the enemy manages to engage on them in a good way. Gnar always has to decide to use his e wisely because after that engaging on him is easy.

Ornn didn't really have one holding spell, he had 3.

If you wanted to gank/ engage a Ornn the following would happen.

option one He walks away and when the jungler throws cc he just ignores it.

option two The jungler throws no cc at him and he walks out.

option three Ornn already used his w to poke so he escapes with his e. option 4 Ornn already used his e and w so he used his r to cc /zone.

With his w, e and r he had too much safety so they decided to remove one safety feature. I fully agree with the nerf for that reason.