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Diamond 1500 games Fiddle jg thoughts about jg item nerf

Xiao Long Nv··3 votes·1,143 views

** Fiddle Nerf 1: removal of magus enchant - hard AP growing curve Fiddle Nerf 2: Talisman of ascension buff - sivir ult every 40 seconds**

**Summary: ** Fiddle still playable at/below plat. Not viable on higher elo.

  1. higher elo is I OWN YOU or YOU OWN ME. Early mid game especially important. Magus is extreamly gold efficient, without it, the early game is very though. Considering fiddlesticks is almost countered by every single other jungler, usually u will never want to 1 vs 1 anyone. Nerf to magus will make his early ult-ing power so weak. Watch PRO game at all? Pro game junglers are usually 2-3 levels behind mid lane and don't farm much at all because presence at early game skirmishes makes or breaks a game. That means you will not want to farm much in early game, which contradicts with requirement to farm up. Needless Large rod is 1600 gold. You will never want to farm straight up for that.
  2. Fiddle is a post 6 - mid game champion. Late game on even gold status and with higher elo player awareness of fiddle, ult-ing is extremely hard, especially considering the tank jungler meta where sight stone on jg and yellow trinket upgrade will virtually place a ward on every visible area of the map.

My temporary build path thoughts:

  1. Stalker's blade (for 30g farming bonus)
  2. Feidish Codex (10% cd, 30AP)
  3. Blasting wand, or Large Rod (if extremely ahead)
  4. Morellonomicon (20% cd, 80AP, same stats as Magus) Much less gold efficient, that's huge nerf for sure

Riot Riot mention about fiddle skipping jg items? That sucks because 30g farming bonus is huge over time.

10 Comments

TeemoJenkins2 votes

For Fid, I always did hour glass as my second item, you suggest other I see. How are your clear times / survival on ganks? Or do you just farm till you can ult?

Serenity Now2 votes

Rushing Hourglass isn't great because Armguard doesn't give a power spike, and Large Rod is really expensive. You also don't need the active until 5v5 fights later in the game.

Fiddle never needed Machete, but it's mandatory because of the gold bonus. I always hated backing after half a clear, but you lose out on gold if you don't.

Fiddle got a nice power spike from the Magus upgrade because of all the AP. Now he won't upgrade Machete past Stalker or Trailblazer, and will need to rush AP efficient items instead.

It's definitely a nerf.

pE4CbxDPQO2 votes

Wait wait wait wait. What the fuck. They had an opportunity to just add an item to diversify, but instead took out a staple item and replaced with something Ekko could use? Honestly as an Ekko main I'm appalled.

WillHealForHonor1 votes

u cant main someone who has been out for 3 weeks

pE4CbxDPQO1 votes

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u cant main someone who has been out for 3 weeks

Oh but I can. I play him every game he is available to me. I pick him into counters and work very hard to improve my ekko play. He is my number one go. Ergo, main.

jDVL20eCYs1 votes

all this post proves is how broken fiddle is when such a barin dead person like you cant get to diamond with him :)

Xiao Long Nv1 votes

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all this post proves is how broken fiddle is when such a barin dead person like you cant get to diamond with him :)

are u fuking retarded. i was diamond. just dropped down haven't playing for a while. u piece of sht stfu really. what are u? bronze 5 or wood 5

jDVL20eCYs1 votes

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Dracid1 votes

I agree. The big thing for me about magus was the 20% CDR. that's 30 seconds off rank 1 ult which is huge. Usually you can get it before you hit level 6. Now that runeglaive is bad in general for fiddle, its going to take longer to get item 3165 to get that 20%. huge nerf to fiddle imo.

HateDaddy1 votes

I literally can't stand cancersticks but this does seem to be a pretty shitty nerf to him overall.

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