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Suggested Item: Relic Shield for Thresh on Summoner's Rift makes no sense

Mudfreak··3 votes·1,492 views

I don't understand why Riot recommends Relic Shield for Thresh on Summoner's Rift. He attacks as a ranged champion, so he can only produce the heal/gold share if he gets a real last hit on the creep. If he doesn't get a real last hit he affects the lane partner's last hit timing and neither of them get the gold or the heal. Its a total troll item choice for this champ. Thresh performs much better as a support with the Ancient Coin which can still be built into wards if the player wants health or it can be built into the speed item if the player wants armor. Ancient coin is far superior for this champion and I find myself arguing with a lot of noobs about how relic shield makes no sense for Thresh. I'm a level 7 mastery Thresh and I've played him in all positions with all different kinds of builds. We can argue all day long about a lot of stuff but I'm sure we can agree that Relic Shield is pointless on Thresh.

23 Comments

Guyy Fieri5 votes

I mean every Thresh player who is truly good at the champ goes with relic shield...plus with his enhanced auto damage from flay (provided you properly give it time to charge up) it becomes very tough to mess up

Mudfreak1 votes

Okay so a good thresh player will build whatever thy are good at but a noob thresh player should be recommended to use coin not relic

Guyy Fieri1 votes

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Okay so a good thresh player will build whatever thy are good at but a noob thresh player should be recommended to use coin not relic

With the passive on Thresh-e there's no reason you should be able to last hit properly, even as a new thresh player

AMYS GRAVE3 votes

Thresh empowered auto attack from his flay passive makes the last hit much much easier. Also FoTM is a much better completed item on thresh than other options. There are situations where ancient coin can be good, but generally Relic Shield is better.

khorney1 votes

there shoudlnt be it makes it much easier....it should just happen .... so yah ancient coin is much better

AdeBug1 votes

it does happen, I once went ad attack speed thresh mid in a norm because i saw how strong he was in aram and it really worked, his autos on minions do insane dmg, even more than an adc with same level, never seen anything like it. never did it again because he slightly fell off late game and i dont wanna tilt my team mates thinking it's a troll pick, even for norms, but now that my memory is refreshed, i cant wait for the next free thresh :D

in the end, it's really about w/e works better for you, at your level and for your team comp. after playing around with diff gold items, im sure you'll find your fave

khorney1 votes

its fact , ancient coin is more efficienet on thresh then relic shield due to the fact that he cannot effectiviely use it.. Which brings me to my next point this was one of the primary reasons they reworked talisman to have armor

AdeBug1 votes

stating that smth is fact and not showing any numbers, a vid or anything as proof doesn't make it a fact just cus u said so u can stick to ur opinion all u want, but dont call it a fact, and my advice to you is:

  1. dont make threads about smth not making sense to you, and then just ignoring every answer that explains it for you (???)
  2. dont knock it til you try it, aka try a variant of gold items, not just these 2, for several (norm) games, see what u make a fave in the end
Guyy Fieri1 votes

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its fact , ancient coin is more efficienet on thresh then relic shield due to the fact that he cannot effectiviely use it.. Which brings me to my next point this was one of the primary reasons they reworked talisman to have armor

You can argue efficiency all you want...you know what relic shield gives that ancient coin doesn't? Sustain for your ADC as well as it actually gives more gold over time then coin (albeit not much and its dependent on you getting the procs off consistently but if you are then you get more gold than with coin, especially if you're getting the cannon minions with it.

khorney1 votes

because on relic shield its hard to last hit since thresh counts as a ranged champ, which is why they redid talismen of ascension so that it gains armor

Guyy Fieri1 votes

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because on relic shield its hard to last hit since thresh counts as a ranged champ, which is why they redid talismen of ascension so that it gains armor

I promise you...it really isn't THAT hard to last hit with relic shield with Thresh properly...I play like no thresh consistently but when I do I go relic shield and I just plan out my auto in lane very specifically...if I know I'm gonna be trying to take a creep soon (usually on cannon wavesdoes the happen) I just stop auto attacking until I have gotten my proc. That way you know you're getting the max damage from your E passive so that you can easily last hit. Go in a bot game and practice last hitting with Thresh if you need but I promise it's not as hard as people are making it out to be.

Dream of Rain3 votes

You are a Bronze V mastery level 7 thresh. That's the key. You won't be able to last hit reliably, so just build coin. https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=MUDFREAK item 3301

Mudfreak1 votes

I have 14 level 7, 14 level 6, and 14 level 5 with 360 mastery how about you

Dream of Rain1 votes

It's sad that, with that amount of playtime (mastery level is an indication of playtime, not of skill), that you're Bronze V. To answer your question, I have 198 mastery with one level 7, three level 6, and three level 5. [zombie-brand-clap]

Mudfreak1 votes

Once you're in bronze 5 there is no "out" it's sad if you think there is... too many troll noob afk disconnect to win enough games to get far enough not to be reset to bronze 5 at beginning of next season

Umbral Regent2 votes

Thresh is recommended to take Relic Shield because his Flay passive Magic Damage on auto-attacks increases his general ability to last-hit minions, proc'ing the execute passive of Relic Shield and its upgrades. Does that mean it's the right choice all the time? No, but it doesn't mean it's pointless on him, either.

khorney1 votes

ikr, he cannot use it liek other supps.....

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

They did make an exception for Jhin with single target spell effects on his abilities, they could just as easily make Thresh proc Relic Shield. But yeah, Thresh players know how to last hit so it's not that bad in lane.

Mudfreak1 votes

By all means he can use the relic shield if you are experienced. But like you mentioned I'm bronze 5. So many players choose Thresh and are total noobs and relic shield turns them into instant troll supports. I can use many variety of build and have no problem with relic shield on many of champs, but for a NOOB playing Thresh, relic shield is not ideal.

Binford1 votes

then that's why you practice using relic shield, it's not that hard

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Hey, "Mastery 7" Thresh!

Tell me, what does his E passive do? Hmm?

The answer to that is why he's one of the rare ranged Supports to be Relic Shield viable.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Thresh's Flay provides bonus damage to help him last-hit.

Thresh wants the extra durability (and heal) Relic Shield provides.

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