Tryndamere Rework ULT or Full Rework ???

KazegaV2·May 29, 2017·1 votes·3,528 views

Tryndamere Rework his ultimate Truly his whole KIT is to overpowered but his ultimate last to long right after he uses it second later its back an he under the tower 1 shot everyone with all crit and attack speed item an now hes just basically hes a click and kill champ really does not require any skill or experience to get a kill an not the mention that integrated Heal from his q always saves him if its not his Ultimate so can you either please nerf him or a big rework would be nice.

25 Comments

ME UNGA ME SMASHMay 29, 20174 votes

Tryndamere is fine. If you don't know how to take advantage of his weaknesses, then that's your problem.

Asayake 5150glowMay 29, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Man Named Mike,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dEWirgPW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-05-29T17:36:55.424+0000)

Tryndamere is fine. If you don't know how to take advantage of his weaknesses, then that's your problem.

Trynd is not fine lol.

Balanced =/= fine if design is broken.

Broken =/= OP, just in case you didn't get that.

ME UNGA ME SMASHMay 30, 20172 votes

Give me a reason his Design is broken without talking about his ult.

Asayake 5150glowMay 30, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Man Named Mike,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dEWirgPW,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-05-30T19:00:44.906+0000)

Give me a reason his Design is broken without talking about his ult.

Too RNG focused with early game crits.

No built in armor pen making his laning against tanks very tough.

Squishy skirmisher who has no effective defensive abilities besides R, as E is too hard to dodge things with and needed to reposition, and Q's heal is nothing in a teamfight.

ME UNGA ME SMASHMay 30, 20172 votes

Rattling off how his kit works does not give me a reason that his design is broken.

Asayake 5150glowMay 30, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Man Named Mike,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dEWirgPW,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-30T19:42:16.849+0000)

Rattling off how his kit works does not give me a reason that his design is broken.

But what's broken is how his kit works...

ME UNGA ME SMASHMay 30, 20172 votes

Explain why it's broken.

Asayake 5150glowMay 30, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Man Named Mike,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dEWirgPW,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-30T20:28:47.409+0000)

Explain why it's broken.

His passive relies far too much on RNG and leaves very little room for skill to be a deciding factor, on either player's end. It's sad that a Tryndamere with >1 million games played would lose just as easily as a first time Trynd if he doesn't get his crits.

His lack of defensive abilities means he's a very bad teamfighter and only useful for splitpushing. He either E's onto the squishies and oneshots them, and goes on to kill everyone else, or he dies instantly (read: after R ends).

ME UNGA ME SMASHMay 30, 20172 votes

So a champion that has a different playstyle than other champions is broken. I gotcha.

Asayake 5150glowMay 30, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Man Named Mike,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dEWirgPW,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-30T20:35:27.354+0000)

So a champion that has a different playstyle than other champions is broken. I gotcha.

Playstyle?

You think winning or losing your lane soley based on RNG is a 'playstyle'?

ME UNGA ME SMASHMay 30, 20171 votes

You don't win your lane because of RNG, you win it because you have the potential to out sustain your opponent if you play the lane right. Just because you aren't aware of how to play the champion doesn't mean he's broken man. It's a flawed view.

Asayake 5150glowMay 30, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Man Named Mike,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dEWirgPW,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-30T21:21:06.278+0000)

You don't win your lane because of RNG, you win it because you have the potential to out sustain your opponent if you play the lane right. Just because you aren't aware of how to play the champion doesn't mean he's broken man. It's a flawed view.

There are quite a few champions who win a lane through sustain.

Tryndamere isn't really one of them because he often loses a duel if he can't crit.

RevenanTJun 21, 20171 votes

Ehm, wat? -.-

Tryndamere does not lose a duel, because "he cannot crit" -.-

Simply because you do not go "all in" with Tryndamere into duel. You just poke and see if you crit, if not - you disengage, try to get back your health and rage, then try again.

Poke early game with AA+"E", if you crit - go all in, if not - wait for the other time.

Of course it takes more understanding in how the game works then simply "if I go dueling, I never run back, so, no crits = I lose".

Only time you go all-in with Tryndamere is if you know you can kill your opponent even with 0 crits, if you land them - even better. Not impossible task, but that's what makes playing Tryndamere in high elo much harder than playing in bronze/silver/gold. You actually need to adapt to every champion and not only play against their kit - but also keep your own RNG (crits) in check to know when to do what.

AzzanApr 4, 20181 votes

Actually you are just showing your inability to understand Tryndamere's crit mechanic. Crit in league is pseudo random, because true randomness cannot occur within a machine. So what riot does is that Crit chance increases with every non-crit, and crit chance decreases or resets with every crit. Here is a way for you to understand.

If you are at full rage bar as Tryndamere and you are able to auto 4 times, you will crit no matter what, it is inevitable. go in the practice tool and get a full rage bar and auto a dummy, you will never go more than 3 non-crits.

Pure RNG does not exist inside a machine.

Best Darius KRMay 30, 20172 votes

His whole laning phase is based on RNG.

There, didn't talk about his ult.

ME UNGA ME SMASHMay 30, 20172 votes

I don't understand this mentality. There are a ton of RNG factors in league and specifically because Tryndamere has one for his laning phase, it make's his design broken? There is always counterplay, there are always things you could have done better. If you let Tryndamere auto you to death, then that's a player problem, not a champion problem.

Best Darius KRMay 30, 20173 votes

If you let Tryndamere auto you to death,

If you let Tryndamere get 2 straight crits on you, it's your fault because you didn't pray hard enough to RNGesus. Same thing applies to playing as Tryndamere. Last time I checked, I shouldn't lose my laning phase because I didn't crit my opponent a single time in 4 auto-attacks. This is flawed design and the whole community knows about it, you just seem to be denying it for some forsaken reason.

I should also note that by your thinking philosophy, no champion is broken or badly designed, they are simply different.

ME UNGA ME SMASHMay 30, 20171 votes

There are plenty of high elo Tryn mains who'll tell you that the same thing I'm going to tell you. RNG is not what a Tryndamere rely's on in lane. It's his sustain. You don't lose lane because you don't crit. That is complete horse if you think he's solely reliant on his early game crit chance. He has other ways to outplay, to burst, to play the lane that makes him a viable and completely accessible top laner. He's a pusher. He has never been a teamfighter as long as he has been a champion, and I don't understand why you think it's important for him to be good in teamfights. There are plenty of other champions who, again, aren't teamfighters, but no one complains about them. He's good at cleanup, same with other champs in his position. There is literally no one in the pro scene or high elo who complains about Tryn's RNG. No one. You're correct in saying that the majority of players do however, because the majority is low silver bronze players who have no idea how to play against Tryndamere.

ForcedLaborIsLitDec 18, 20171 votes

He's so OP, but Jax can poke him down easy, teemo can keep him at bay every 3 seconds for 5 seconds, supps can slow and kite him to death with adc help. Basically if you let him get to back line adc, you lose if they have no escapes. But he cannot one shot everyone. I haven't even one shot an adc now that I think of it. So check yoself, yes?

Decent Slick ManAug 12, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Man Named Mike,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dEWirgPW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-05-29T17:36:55.424+0000)

Tryndamere is fine. If you don't know how to take advantage of his weaknesses, then that's your problem.

Honestly tell me.. what weaknesses? He even counters the champs that counter him ...

NinjaGuy69May 29, 20171 votes

I'm sure they'd like to do a full VGU on Tryndamere eventually but I don't think Riot considers him to be too high of a priority at the moment.

KazegaV2May 29, 20171 votes

True but i not talking about now like i know there are bigger problems but if they can at least throw a few re tweak his was to balance him out a little until they rework him if they decide to you know.

Sgt Morning WoodAug 4, 20171 votes

okay okay okay you listen here guy, im a very long time tryndamere player since s3 alright? HES BEEN THE SAME DAMN THING SINCE S3. alright lets talk "busted". his ult last 5 seconds wont drop below 50 health, and lower at lower lvls aight? okay now lets say ur fiora top against him thats a skill lane, she has to land her q but if she doesnt she gets critted, her fault, panthon counters tryndamere stun alotta poke so does quinn, shen SCREWS HIM THE CRAP UP. now yeah his w sucks alotta slow n crap but if ur smart u dont run from him as hes spinning. after the spin he does for his w then u hit with the slow itself so its called stop being bronze trash and learn ur counterplay

Sgt Morning WoodAug 4, 20171 votes

and if u got a problem add me and 1v1 me kid ill show u how to get rolled by a trynd or even ekko fwm boi gtfo outta here

KazegaV2Sep 30, 20171 votes

LMAO, I'm dying over looks like someone SALTY AS FUCK it's not that Serious I posted this 4 months ago Tryndamere in none to me in lane now but thanks for the laugh lol !!!