Who are the AP HyperCarries?

SigmaWolf·9/10/2015, 12:04:20 AM·2 votes·2,798 views

I'm defining a "hypercarry" as a champion with a kit more beneficial at full build than other champions attempting to fulfill the same role. This can either be through utility given, free stats, or a mix of the two

Ex, Vayne is considered a hypercarry because at full build she outputs ridiculous amounts of damage from her tumble, gains more free stats with her ult, and has % true damage to make the enemy regret being tanky. At full build few adc's can compare to her damage output, making her an ad hypercarry.

So who are the equivalents in the AP realm? I'm thinking Azir because his kit keeps him safer than most other APCs and maybe Kassadin because his high number of jumps+a slow+shield+damage reducing passive equate to being relatively safe while building full damage. But I'm no mid main and was hoping someone who was could point me in the direction of these types of champs.

26 Comments

YumaS2Astral9/10/2015, 12:13:39 AM6 votes

Karthus is somewhat of an AP hypercarry.

He is weak early game, but at late game, his amount of sustained AoE damage is absurd. Even if you decide to focus him, he will have 7 seconds to devastate your team while dead. On top of that, Requiem does massive damage during the late game.

Other AP hypercarries I can think are Vladimir Cassiopeia Anivia Swain but I don't have time to explain why they are hypercarries.

Ramza Paradise9/10/2015, 12:11:29 AM3 votes

Karthus

stealthfox949/10/2015, 3:08:39 AM2 votes

The 3 V's are all insanely good late game AP champs

Viktor Veigar Vladimir

TheDogIsOut9/10/2015, 12:41:28 PM2 votes

Azir Cassiopeia Karthus Katarina (if she manages to survive she has ridiculous ratios on ult) Orianna (more combo-oriented, really) Vladimir Viktor

PS : Veigar is hardly a hypercarry, if he doesnt land his abilities he's completely useless, also though he's got huge (unreliable) burst, his DPS is pretty crappy compared to other champions, even if he farmed his Q a lot.

Also, on an other note, people who think Nasus is a hypercarry... Please, Nasus sucks dicks in a lategame teamfight. He's definitely a strong splitpusher but the fact he gets kited so hard and tankiness is futile against 6-items carries makes him really bad in a lategame teamfight. Really.

SEKAI9/10/2015, 1:42:14 PM2 votes

I am shocked to see a clear lack Ryze in this thread, who has only been mentioned like 3 times or so, given the amount of hatred people have for him.

The Bíg Ticket9/10/2015, 12:21:04 AM2 votes

Karthus, Cassiopeia, Azir, Kog Maw, Orianna, Ryze

warpenguin5559/10/2015, 2:56:22 AM2 votes

Cassiopeia

Guyy Fieri9/10/2015, 3:17:00 AM1 votes

There's Kog'Maw mid and Ryze for sure

Håppy9/10/2015, 12:29:58 PM1 votes

Swain

He has a low-cd (with the proper build) snare nuke, a damage amplification, a slow and dot, an aoe heal that deals surprising amounts of long-term damage, self-sustaining mana pool thanks to his passive, and best of all he's fucking SWAIN, look at that backstory, mwuah IGN 10/10, badass confirmed.

Quoth the raven; Swag galore.

Punkkee9/10/2015, 3:04:41 AM1 votes

why are people saying karthus and cass are hypercarries. karthus < banshee cass < item 3065

Incognonymous9/10/2015, 12:35:44 AM1 votes

All carries can do that at 6 items. The traditional definition of a hypercarry, as I understand it, typically involves the champ deliberately and successfully 1v5ing. AP wise there aren't many. Thresh and Veigar due purely to infinite scaling. Ryze, at least at one time, could roll almost pure tank and still outdamage the biggest AP carries. AP Poppy, though I wager that's fallen out of favor with DFG going away. Old Mordekaiser. Vlad for the same reasons.

Lord Azır9/10/2015, 2:55:21 AM1 votes

Viktor Azir Cassiopeia Basically the highest DPS AP champions that aren't solely reliant on their ultis to do tons of dmg unlike Leblanc Veigar Syndra Karthus

Punkkee9/10/2015, 3:03:04 AM1 votes

depends what elo tbh in lower elos there are alot of hypercarries simply because people dont know how to play against them in higher elos people do understand and if there is a hypercarry, it's because it's just op or the team screwed up playing against him Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus Nasus