Ezreal's Current State and the Nerfs on 8.2 PBE Cycle

Mehrunes Razor··1 votes·812 views
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Hi, I'm an Ezreal main who is concerned about the viability of the champion if the nerfs on PBE go through. (If you are unaware it's a nerf to Mystic Shot - 20 base damage off at all levels) Ezreal's been on the strong side this preseason (like most preseasons lol) and too strong even in patches 7.22 and 7.23, but there are a couple of reasons for that and I believe that he's currently in a balanced state and would like a revert of the either patch 7.24b attack speed nerf, or a revert of the nerf on PBE and here are my reasons:

  1. Ezreal was blatantly overtuned since 7.17, and we can see that from the impact Jungle Ezreal caused, and it was kinda predictable when botlane meta shifted, Ezreal would become strong again. Thankfully Riot realised how stupid that buff was in the first place and reverted it.
  2. Inspiration + Sorcery giving 16 AD pre-game, coupled with Ezreal's at the time 125% AD ratio Q, plus some other factors like Scorch gave Ezreal so much power. Landing 1 Q at level 1 was more than a quarter of an ADC's HP and this allowed Ezreal to bully people into oblivion. These factors have all been nerfed.
  3. Kleptomancy is a strong keystone that Ezreal can abuse, like how Ezreal "abuses" Spellblade items. I don't believe Kleptomancy requires any nerfs, just stating that Ezreal is the only ADC that can abuse it properly, thus giving him some advantages over other ADC's.
  4. If PBE nerfs pass and make it to live servers, Ezreal won't have any strengths, he's right now the strongest early-mid game ADC but also the weakest ADC past 40 minutes. (even worse than Lucian - probably due to the attack speed nerf, seriously, I've canceled at least 50 autos this patch because it's so clunky to play) If the nerfs hit live, Ezreal would be nothing more than a slight midgame spike and just a weight that other teammates need to carry in order to win.
  5. Another strength of Ezreal was that there was no other ADC strong enough to punish his weaknesses, Sivir is mostly a dead champion right now who fares well against Ezreal due to Sivir endlessly pushing the wave and Ezreal having not enough waveclear to push it back. Caitlyn and Lucian have took the nerf bat harder than Ezreal did and cannot punish his early game where he has to buy Tear. Now that these champs are gone, Ezreal can safely farm (and sometimes bully and kill the enemy botlane - we're kinda back to the Ardent meta with this Relic Shield + Overheal builds popping up, strong ADC's right now all have weaker early games e.g. Vayne, Twitch, Kog'maw) to his Muramana + Triforce spike and take over the game by himself.

Ezreal is mostly strong right now because of the fact that there is just one strategy to counter him, which is to outscale him. AND that strategy works, Ezreal is right now the 5th ADC according to op.gg, surpassed by only Vayne, Twitch, Kog'maw and Xayah. These champions can avoid being bullied, using the Relic Shield strat and abuse Ezreal's horrendous late game. So, please consider again before nerfing Ezreal, so that he doesn't become the next Lucian, Caitlyn, Varus or Jhin.

Also this nerf impacts Jungle Ezreal and AP Ezreal a lot more than AD Ezreal, clearing with Jungle Ezreal is going to be much slower and AP Ezreal's waveclear just becomes worse, although I'm not sure if Riot thinks about that when balancing Ezreal. Still feel like this deserves a mention though.

EDIT: That screenshot is taking up most of the page and I couldn't remove it, sorry. Didn't realise it would've looked this huge lol

And my God please give us Ezreal mains our attack speed back - autoing with Mordekaiser is easier than this shit aaaaaahhh Ezreal item 3070

5 Comments

Śhunpo1 votes

You don't believe Klepto requires a nerf? When literally every Klepto user is sitting at the top of each lane in terms of winrate?

Great meme.

Also, Ez after the nerfs is still really strong considering the removal of armour+MR makes his abilities do almost true damage, and given how frequently they're up and the range of them, he can be quite oppressive for exerting without little effort. Ezreal is not extremely weak past 40 minutes. He still has his get out of jail free card in Arcane Shift, he still has insane range, he still has his powerhouse of an ult (with a short CD) and he still does a lot of damage. Granted, he is weaker, but not nearly as much as what you're saying.

You are right in one thing, hypercarries are bullshit, hence why they're sitting higher than Ezreal in winrates. But really, the ADC position as a whole is fundamentally broken right now and really needs another rebalance.

Mehrunes Razor1 votes

Yeah I checked it out and realised that some toplaners also started to go Klepto. (e.g. Jax) I really love Kleptomancy's concept, so maybe saying it doesn't require any nerfs was biased and wrong, although my post was barely about Klepto. My point was a lot of direct and indirect changes happened so this nerf was overkill.

Also, I have no clue how Ezreal isn't weak past 40 minutes. One of Ezreal's biggest weaknesses has always been his late game, people seem to overlook that Ezreal's usually strong in fast metas where late game feels like 30 minutes. And statistics don't lie, I won't consider an ADC that has a lower winrate than Lucian strong at that part of the game. A get out of jail free card doesn't matter when your team is getting demolished, it's not like Ezreal can stall for eternity. Insane range doesn't matter when it's not enough damage, although I agree his ult can be strong if used right.

Śhunpo1 votes

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Yeah I checked it out and realised that some toplaners also started to go Klepto. (e.g. Jax) I really love Kleptomancy's concept, so maybe saying it doesn't require any nerfs was biased and wrong, although my post was barely about Klepto. My point was a lot of direct and indirect changes happened so this nerf was overkill.

Also, I have no clue how Ezreal isn't weak past 40 minutes. One of Ezreal's biggest weaknesses has always been his late game, people seem to overlook that Ezreal's usually strong in fast metas where late game feels like 30 minutes. And statistics don't lie, I won't consider an ADC that has a lower winrate than Lucian strong at that part of the game. A get out of jail free card doesn't matter when your team is getting demolished, it's not like Ezreal can stall for eternity. Insane range doesn't matter when it's not enough damage, although I agree his ult can be strong if used right.

They just need to remove Klepto from the game because it's a very potent and unhealthy design for a keystone.

As for Ezreal, if you're getting to 40 minutes as Ez you and your team are doing something very wrong. Also he's not "weak", he's just a lot more niche than other ADC picks which are meta, being hypercarries. Against non-hyper carry ADCs Ezreal does just fine.

KlydeFrog1 votes

you complain to much about things that are fine....

KlydeFrog1 votes

exactly and people still dont know that his q procs ludens now.....liek before when people took the the ap jungle item mid and then they patched it out then they did a secret buff so yah ez is fine

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