Why are bruisers a problem, but mages are not

AjXtar·12/17/2018, 6:43:57 AM·31 votes·10,249 views

Like I really don't understand. Everyone is yelling that bruisers deal true damage. Nobody complains about the fact that mages are building so much magic penetration that they deal damage close to true damage or even true damage because and they spam those abilities like there is no tomorrow because of how much cdr and mana they get from items. On top of that now they have so many defensive items that synergies so well with their kits.

Bruisers don't build that much HP over mages and people act like this is a big difference. Bruisers are also melee champions, but hey. Who cares about that.

Mages are also in 3 roles, they are the strongest atm in 3 roles, but bruisers are the problem. Zyra and Brand who are supports btw can pretty much one shot everyone and they are supports btw. Bruisers are the biggest problem.

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iiGazeii12/17/2018, 6:57:02 AM16 votes

Bruisers might not build HP, but they have more HP and resistances than mages. It's hard to outplay them because their kit usually involves self-sustain in some capacity. You can catch a mage out without their CC and they die. Bruisers are significantly harder to kill.

Warlord Rhinark12/17/2018, 8:07:53 AM16 votes

Be real here though, nobody builds both a Morellonomicon and an Oblivion Orb.

Stars Shaper12/17/2018, 2:01:42 PM12 votes

Because MR itemization is far better than Armor itemization.

Glîtchy12/17/2018, 7:07:29 AM11 votes

Bruisers don't need to build HP because their defensive stat scaling is so much higher, damage is literally the ONLY thing mages have going for them, CC a mage, dead, full build adc with stormrazor, dead, Juggernauts going 1v1, Mage is dead, the mages will NOT win in most cases unless they have magic pen, even then there's only maybe 2-3 magic pen items, while there's lord almighty knows how many armor pen items, Black cleaver, Dominik's, Mortal reminder, are a handful of examples.

I lit your baby12/17/2018, 4:31:42 PM9 votes

Because mage players literally whiny children, which want everything build in one item.

Moody P12/17/2018, 12:47:26 PM8 votes

Mages have lots of rabid defender's on boards protecting their freelo as best as they can

haaaaaaalp12/17/2018, 8:16:35 AM7 votes

Because irelia is such a big problem and people think bruisers when they think irelia.

Super Galaxy12/17/2018, 5:41:47 PM6 votes

The problem is that the shift to AP itemization earlier in Season 8 only gave almost every AP caster the incentive to buy double pen ( item 3020 item 3916 ), to the point that their viable builds were limited to having these core items. There isn't enough easily accessible Magic Resistance to warrant cheap double pen, and frankly an item as cheap as Oblivion Orb shouldn't offer so much penetration in the first place.

Daddy Ants12/17/2018, 10:35:51 AM5 votes

My biggest problem with Mages... especially Mage Supports is that if they rush item 3020 they effectively remove half of an ADC/Support's magic resist in lane.

Noor Sakata12/17/2018, 10:48:03 AM5 votes

item 3135 Was nerfed many times when mage items got reworked item 3916 is a unique passive with item 3165 , you can't build both unless you're trolling What HP items you talking about other than ? Most of mages build path : item 3285 item 3020 item 3089 item 3157 How many HP items are there ?

Atmosphere12/18/2018, 5:14:59 PM3 votes

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JackMcSnipeyz12/17/2018, 5:05:54 PM3 votes

Not that you dont have a point, but you are comparing a free mastery from level 1 to a 3 items purchase. Bruisers who can abuse conquerer will keep being complained about because that mastery pretty much has 0 downtime on champions like Jax, which feels very cheap to play against when he gets free AD and true damage for just existing.

Mages are not weak, not even close, their player base will always cry about how they are the weakest even wheb they are more often than not, topping the WR charts.

vgamedude12/17/2018, 7:07:20 AM2 votes

everything is a problem besides the almighty marksmen. thankfully based rito is buffing vayne !

Lovelle12/17/2018, 5:04:57 PM1 votes

has been a god tier pick on 3v3 for years, despite being a map known for being bruiser-dominated. I would argue mages are stronger than bruisers as a whole, since they have a larger viable champion pool. They also have exponentially better itemization compared to bruisers.