The Dodge Button - A Thing that is Very Possible

Yeah giving people an extra incentive to dodge sounds like a really bad idea, even though we want to from time to time. It will certainly get abused.

People already dodge if they get counterpicked hard. So that isn't a concern.

Ranked matches take awhile to start already. So that isn't a concern. The X or feed is exactly why Riot needs to make reporting available in Champion Select. That would fix this problem and tons of others.

I'm pretty sure he means the free one on top of the 24 hour one already in place. That way you would have some days where you could dodge more than one game without a hard penalty.

"2a) The more "free" dodges are floating around, the more people are inclined to pull "X or feed" BS in Ranked lobbies, because they know that someone will dodge if nobody on the team caves to their demand. Ironically, having no dodges (e.g. it randomly picks a champion for you if you don't lock in) would discourage this behavior more than having free dodges."

think you're on to something here. wouldn't mind this at all, sick of having to sit through 3-4 draft phases before getting a game. on top it, it's best to restart your queue if the draft phase completes and then someone dodges, because often you get matched with the same people and they just saw who you were going to select...

not being able to dodge...sure people might afk but increase the penalties for that. and if something comes up, well, you knew the policy and will have to accept the punishment. if it's really an emergency, I think you'll care less about your LP or whatever than attending to it.

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This gets suggested all the time.

1. People will abuse it for competitive reasons. They'll dodge because they got counterpicked or the enemy team got an "OP" champ, not because of the reasons you outlined. If you can use it in promos then people will dodge ANYTHING that looks even slightly bad for themselves or their team.

2. Because of #1, you have to severely limit it or Ranked matches will never start. The most common suggestion is the one you made, getting a "free" dodge every X games played.

2a) The more "free" dodges are floating around, the more people are inclined to pull "X or feed" BS in Ranked lobbies, because they know that someone will dodge if nobody on the team caves to their demand. Ironically, having no dodges (e.g. it randomly picks a champion for you if you don't lock in) would discourage this behavior more than having free dodges.

3. Because of #2, it's very hard to have it really be meaningful. If you have to play 20 matches to get one dodge as you suggested -- unless you're playing for hours every day, you're going to get, like, one dodge every week or two. You already get one "almost free" dodge per 24 hours; that wouldn't be a significant increase for most players.

Well, the idea is pretty broad and can be tweaked, for example people can simply earn it for playing X games without being reported, or playing X games with a positive KDA or A to S rating in ranked

Also when you dodge you would be promoted to answer the simple question of why you dodged before you can join a que again, and if it was because someone said 'mid or feed' or trolled, then they get reported. And possibly if you used it because you were 'hard countered' they would be tougher on giving you dodges, with a combo of these, it can almost be Un-exploitable (if you can find something please tell me :)

How would you be able to counter-pick the other team? The best part of Draft is being able to do that.

The only problem with that is if you pick mid or top and have first pick, you will get HARD countered.

It's already in development... https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2ws22k/i_miss_doing_tribunal_work/cou0i10

I think there are more updates to that, that post was a while ago. No idea how close they are. You don't pick a champ, you pick a role.

Sometimes, just sometimes, even in teambuilder, there are trolololols. This mechanic is needed.

This mechanic would still be necessary to mitigate unknown circumstances like: mentally deranged individuals, trolls, etc.,

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I think we should get a ranked teambuilder then everyone can play what they want

They are working on it, should be out by like August maybe.

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Honestly, dodging is a thing. As in, its almost as much a part of LoL as choosing a champ. It would be nice to at least have some in-client functionality that recognizes it (ie give us a button instead of having to exit and reload League).

I'd love for there to be something like the OP suggested, but at the minimum at least let there be a button so we don't have to restart League... When people are toxic before the game had even begun you just gotta dodge sometimes.

Rito in self-denial.

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This would allow the smart and good players to rank up quicker.

You can already do that if you are good. Couple of "trolls" won't bring you down anyway.

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That allows a bigger pool at higher elo which reduces the horrid wait times that occur at high elo.

Actually this would only increase the wait times, since more people can now freely dodge ... so you would be spending more time in the queue than what you would currently.

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It also kneecaps the trolls since they will realize they can't hold people hostage anymore.

Wrong. This doesn't affect the trolls at all... they will still troll and make you waste your precious free dodges if they want to.

Actually, looking at this for a purely technical standpoint, you can often see the comp as it's being formed (all ad or all ap, mismatched or whatever). There's also times when someone say's I'm mostly really good in x position, then some kid trolls just to troll the team, takes said position, then you end up with a first time adc and everyone wonders why the guy is so bad, well he stated he can only do x position well and a troll took that position, etc.,

You get the point, this is a great idea and I totally endorse it.

What the OP suggested is useless, unless you are one of those extremely lucky persons who only meet these "trolls" once or twice a day ... and if you are, you should probably start submitting lottery tickets also.

Pro tip: Stop being a chicken. Stop dodging because of these "trolls". They are still there because people like you, who go chicken and dodge.

abuse is an easy argument. that is why so many people use it. IT is still a bullshit argument.

Lyte might have said it but is it true?

what happen in season two. I am guessing the people that are pros now were also pros then. Did it upset the applecart?