To Be Shen What You Must Know?

Damon Nomad 2nd··3 votes·1,154 views

Well this is my first thread and I want to make this clear. I have played _Shen_for so long now that I want to main it. Shen Well to begin I have started using the normal item set which is usually recommended. However, as I used _Shen_not only I've learned the potential of this mighty character but I have also learned a bit of jungling with him. Here are some of the facts I have noticed.

Pros > 1. _Shen_has very poor movement speed > 2. He has poor health regen > 3. He has very low damage input > 4. He's attack speed is also very slow

Cons >1. He has high health at level 18 >2. He has high armor value >3. He has high magic resist value >4. He has no man but instead he has energy

Now to level Shen for Jungling, you need to know couple of facts that I have learned while Jungling. For example what items we should use for Shen jungle and how effective they are while usage. As I have played tens of games with Shen, I realized it is not potentially strong to use him as Jungler. However, it is not impossible to do so. So here we are with my best strats as a Jungle Shen;

  • Items: Well considerably, items are essential to any champion in the League. However, what items is used is important. One has the opportunity to use all of the following items. However, a good player always keeps in mind that a jungler's need is money.

> item 3083 item 3075 item 3053 item 3143 item 3190 item 3742 item 3078 item 3748 item 3091 item 3071 item 3068 item 3022 item 3065 item 1321 item 1316

So out of all these which one should we pick? Depending on the situation of course our itemset changes dramatically. For example if you are laning against high **Magic **valued enemies you would definitely need : > item 3091 item 1321 item 3190 item 3065

Also, against Damage based enemies you would like to have the following set: > item 3075 item 3068 item 1316 item 3143 item 3742

Well let's conclude to this it is impossible to be tank and not to have all these awesome health based items in our inventory. Now I want to point out a perfect sequence of itemset that I would always use as Shen:

>item 1401 This Item Is A Necessity For Jungler Shen needs Health, and Magic Resist or Armor; item 3065 item 3742 :This set would provide enough health, armor, and magic resist for Shen to survive combat. Health Value: +1100 Magic Resist Value: +70 Armor Value: +50 Additional:

  • Increased healing by 20%
  • Given momentum at 100 stack which will provide movement speed and would discharge upon attack slowing the enemy which has been targeted

> Shen needs damage along with Health, Magic Resist, or Armor; item 3748 item 3091 item 3071: Buying these items would not only increase your survivability but also would increase your damage input. Attack Damage: +150 Attack Speed: +40% Health: +750 Magic Resist: +40 Health Regen: +100% Additional

  • Upon attack reduced enemy's Armor by +5%, max 30% for 6 sec
  • Dealing physical damage increase Movement Speed by 20 for 2 sec
  • Deals 40 Magic Damage
  • Reduces enemy's Magic Resist by 5, stacks up till 30
  • Deals extra Damage of 5+1% / 40+1% of champion's Max Health to the enemy targeted

> And as for boots I always recommend to buy Armor Boots item 1316

  • Summoner's Spell: summoner 11 : definitely the option of smite is always possible for the Jungle but what else can we pick? summoner 4 : If you have the ability to mix your "E (Taunt)" with Flash, get flash for sure as it provides you with escape and invade abilities. summoner 7 : If you are new with Jungling and do not know if you can survive invading the jungle monsters get Heal

Now let's cover some Jungle facts:

  1. Never kill a monster with smite: You would get more experience if you could kill a monster with your attacks. This is very handy when invading the Blue Buff in the Jungle.
  2. Get the Blue Buff if starting on bottom base or get Red when starting top base: You need to always keep an eye on the bottom lane so get the monsters of the top lane first and then move to the buttome lane which you have to secure kills for allies.
  3. Ult, Dash, Kill: Always remember when an ally is in a fight (not necessarily low on health) ult to them when the time is right and taunt the enemies so you would secure Kill, Fame, Reputation, and of course GOLD.
  4. Taunt enemies under turret: Offense is the best defense, so let the taunted enemies attack you while you could stay under the protection of turret and Kill.
  5. Your W needs to be PRIORITY: when invading jungle, your "W shield" is always important to reduce the damage of the enemy monsters. It is always a good way to mix it with the "Q mark" which would help you regain health.
  6. Invade after Invade: because of your ult you may be able to invade to lanes in the same time. Just Ult to the champion of the other lane after helping push another lane.

That was it all that I could think of was gathered and posted above. Please let me know if you had any other experience with _Shen_or if you have any recommendation for Shen I am always happy to learn new things and to discuss.

13 Comments

MasterSomething6 votes

You uh, mixed up Pros and cons there...

Damon Nomad 2nd1 votes

😓 What did I miss about the pros and cons? Cause honestly those are the things I have noticed. Just wana make sure I'll be on the right track.

Melledoneus2 votes

Pros are for positive traits, cons are for negative traits. You switched them.

Damon Nomad 2nd1 votes

Bruhh I thought I made myself clear enough

Melledoneus3 votes

Your post was fine, but as a Shen main let me fill in some things.

item 3190 is a decent item, but you only really want to get it if you're going to be peeling for your carries mostly rather than diving their back line. Also, if you have a protect the carry comp, it would be wise to get it if the support doesn't.

item 3071 item 3091 item 3748 are all ok items on Shen, especially Titanic Hydra. However, I have found most success with a full tank build without any damage items since Shen's CC and passive make him a threat already. item 3068 should suffice if you're going to be split pushing.

Also, for jungling the best item, in my opinion, is item 3715 with juggernaut. It's pretty good for locking down carries and sticking to them while taking less damage and dishing out more of it. Chilling smite is good against champions you can't really catch up with, such as Lucian, Vayne, or if their team has a utility champion like Lulu. Shen jungle, however, is not the strongest there is, so try to look for synergies with your team before locking it in.

Shen needs damage along with Health, Magic Resist, or Armor;

I agree with Health, MR, and armor, but Shen definitely does not need damage in a tank build. His passive handles that for him, and if you're building item 3075 you can force enemy carries to kill themselves pretty quickly with the combination of the taunt and autos.

Invade after Invade: because of your ult you may be able to invade to lanes in the same time. Just Ult to the champion of the other lane after helping push another lane.

As a matter of fact, I find the most success counter-ganking with Shen. Even without his ultimate, Shen can turn an enemy gank into a win with his lock-down tools and decent damage.

Never kill a monster with smite: You would get more experience if you could kill a monster with your attacks. This is very handy when invading the Blue Buff in the Jungle.

Shen actually has very poor sustain early on, and his damage is sub-par compared to other junglers. It is wise to smite camps like Gromp, Red Buff, and Krugs that aid Shen in clearing the jungle while staying relatively healthy. However, sometimes it's best to hang on to smite when epic monsters are starting to look appealing to both sides.

Your W needs to be PRIORITY: when invading jungle, your "W shield" is always important to reduce the damage of the enemy monsters. It is always a good way to mix it with the "Q mark" which would help you regain health.

Shen's W has very poor stats and duration, making Q a better choice for him in general. I have found the most success maxing W last. Not only does your Q deal more damage, but it gives back more HP and also is up more often.

And as for boots I always recommend to buy Armor Boots

That is very situational. It is best to go safe with item 3111 because the tenacity it provides allows Shen to stick to carries and it takes the edge off of AP damage. As a tank, tenacity makes Shen a very good front line, as targeting him with CC makes it go to waste even further. Ninja tabi is recommended most against AD-heavy comps.


Here's a tip of my own: As Shen you want to make sure you do 3 things correctly:

  1. Communicate with your teammates prior to minions spawning telling them to watch for your shield during skirmishes. That way, your teammates can turn around and turn losing fights into victories very quickly.

  2. Evaluate your team composition. Shen can double as a peeling tank and a diving tank. If your team has carries that need protecting to dish out damage, sometimes it's better to slow-roll your E until somebody engages on them. That way, you can easily pick off assassins and aggressive divers. If the enemy team hinges on a particular carry, it's a good idea to coordinate with your team to lock down and eliminate that threat. Remember: a 5 man taunt is not ideal, use your E wisely as it can turn around the most unfavorable of fights.

  3. If playing Shen top, utilize your minion waves. If your opponent is confident and farming near your minion wave, bait out an exchange. They will more than likely not notice you collide with your hitbox. Then you can taunt them right into your minion wave, allowing them to take plenty of damage from your wave as well as your autos. Punish them with autos and Q's if they back away. It takes practice and timing to master this, so keep that in mind.

Hope I was able to be of some help! I'm open to discussion, so tell me what you think!

Damon Nomad 2nd1 votes

Holly Crap Thumbs up I actually read all that and it makes sense. Thanks for the reply really helped

Melledoneus1 votes

No problem. I just wanted to help you and anybody else interested out.

BadmoonBC2 votes

My fri end mains Shen. There's some really cool duo combos with Shen that go really well together. Xin jg with rage blade/devourer/full tank, and Diana mid/jg both go awesome with Shen. Not kidding you when he's Shen and I play either of those two we are at like a80% win rate. When you can dive and kill and then somehow stay alive to take another enemy out it really snowballs. Shen is amazing, he's such a game changer... I really want to start playing him but it's a lot of pressure, If you don't use that ult properly then your useless

Damon Nomad 2nd1 votes

True a good trait with good skilled summoners always good

Death by Glamour1 votes

Well you missed out masteries, runes and split pushing . He is despite what people may think a very capable mid and late game duelist thanks to grasp of undying.

Never seen shen building black cleaver in silver or plat.

Shen jungle is rather gimicky when compaired to the likes of nauti rammus or amumu who fill a similar role.

Anyway the build i use tho old its decent enough

Thornmail sunfire wits randuins boots and mogs, if against double or triple ap substitue randuins for spirit visage.

Edit also shen cant do the usual jungle route would be better going

Gromp wolves crab thing then blue.

Or gromp wolve crap wraiths krugs then back. Then go for red then blue.

Damon Nomad 2nd1 votes

OK about the masteries I am still level 14 so I don't have much choice but I have chosen 0-2-12 for now and no ruins. Oh can you tell me what ruins I should buy at lvl 12? Also black cleaver is the last option I always chose for late game gives me good amount of cool down and armor reduce so I could bring a huge impact on team fights. Honestly from the moment I played Shen I knew that there aren't a lot of times that I could kill. But I've killed and assisted a lot during me "Shening". If you have a better idea for the item set please let me know.

Death by Glamour1 votes

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OK about the masteries I am still level 14 so I don't have much choice but I have chosen 0-2-12 for now and no ruins. Oh can you tell me what ruins I should buy at lvl 12? Also black cleaver is the last option I always chose for late game gives me good amount of cool down and armor reduce so I could bring a huge impact on team fights. Honestly from the moment I played Shen I knew that there aren't a lot of times that I could kill. But I've killed and assisted a lot during me "Shening". If you have a better idea for the item set please let me know.

Hes under rated. Did 44k famage in one game witha tanky build against alot of auto attckers.

Dony buy any but at 30 either use

% hp or attack speed quints

Armour or hp yellows

Mr or mr per lvl blues

Attack speed or spell pen reds

Lady Hammerlock1 votes

umm....you mixed cons and pros sir

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