Is no one going to talk about the fact Sivir received a MASSIVE nerf??

Seal Bot·7/10/2019, 6:58:12 PM·111 votes·20,729 views
Patch 9.13 notes

In the patch notes for 9.13, Sivir received a massive nerf which not many people noticed. "MANA REGEN 8.012 ⇒ 8" Now, since mana regen is calculated per 5 seconds, meaning that Sivir will now regen 8 mana per 5 seconds instead of 8.012, every 416.67 seconds, or roughly 7 minutes, Sivir will be 1 mana point short. According to LeagueOfGraphs, the average player is ranked silver in Solo/Duo. The average game duration in Silver is 29:44 Minutes, Meaning that throughout the duration of the match, Sivir will lose 4.281 mana points compared to previous patches. As a Garen main, I do not know if that's a lot of mana or not, but still this seems uncalled for.

59 Comments

letsfeedtogether7/10/2019, 7:19:53 PM43 votes

Thats so sad. Just so sad how riot just kill a champion without thinking. Riot you should give sivir a huge buff after this big of a nerf. unplayable.

Hayaishi27/10/2019, 7:25:35 PM27 votes

Balance team is out of touch with reality.

Jimmy Rustles7/10/2019, 7:10:51 PM26 votes

Dead champion

Terozu7/10/2019, 7:30:51 PM24 votes

Fucking finally. She already has a fucking Mana restore.

ModDaenrysTargaryen7/10/2019, 7:07:45 PM23 votes

Quoted from the patch notes

applying #cleannumbers to some base stats (less for the minimal balance impact, more because weird decimals are unsightly).

They also did it with Tristana this patch

Wrathful Chicken7/10/2019, 10:04:29 PM18 votes

It's official.

Rito prefers ints over floats.

Rito supports inting conformed.

Nekorus7/10/2019, 7:03:15 PM14 votes

yes

alfavhunter7/10/2019, 9:11:52 PM4 votes

They gutted sivir, better need irellia to compensate

Dead Anime Dad7/11/2019, 1:11:18 AM4 votes

Clearly they are just trying to get all the sivir mains to transfer to qiyana. It's the only reasonable answer.

Barkley7/10/2019, 11:50:10 PM3 votes

This is an outrage. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Daddy Ants7/10/2019, 7:24:34 PM3 votes

That Sivir nerf is a meme,

Even more so than Irelia -5 ms.

season10balanced7/10/2019, 9:09:47 PM3 votes

Is there something i'm missing here? Is that really a lot?

General Esdeath 7/10/2019, 9:53:52 PM3 votes

I played her a few days ago and was told she's broken because she's getting a nerf

lul

ThisName1sDumb7/11/2019, 6:31:44 AM3 votes

As a fellow Garen main, I can tell you that's a lot of mana. More than I've even ever had as Garen, and she's missing out on that much every 29 minutes? Dang man

PurpleKingCrazy7/10/2019, 10:47:07 PM2 votes

WoofMeow

Taliyah

KFCeytron7/10/2019, 7:31:54 PM2 votes

They were probably tired of expecting 8.012 and instead seeing 8.01200000000000045474735088646411895751953125 in the output of their dev tools.

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Quoted from the patch notes

applying #cleannumbers to some base stats (less for the minimal balance impact, more because weird decimals are unsightly).

They also did it with Tristana this patch

#confirmed

jocomotion7/11/2019, 4:16:16 PM2 votes

I mean she was a little strong, but they didn’t need to gut her like that.

Trias0007/11/2019, 2:32:43 AM2 votes

Literally playable

Makarakarn7/10/2019, 11:47:00 PM2 votes

Qiyana got mana changes? Wow you're right, I never even saw!

i4got2pull0ut7/12/2019, 9:28:45 AM1 votes

If you watch the Phreak Show, they showed the difference between the mana costs.

Your math is wrong, ths is literally only like 4-5 mana over the course of the game.

Raiyza7/11/2019, 4:34:48 PM1 votes

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This Is Your Dad7/11/2019, 4:35:06 PM1 votes

She was Sivir-ly hindered due to a herniated disk.

Abstractness7/11/2019, 5:03:49 PM1 votes

OP did math. And for that reason alone, regardless of the accuracy, OP will get my upvote. Enjoy it.

i4got2pull0ut7/12/2019, 4:02:07 AM1 votes

Shes the best ad in game rn

Zemasu7/12/2019, 8:38:14 AM1 votes

They removed her core identity, as always

GG rito ruining the game every patch

matusted7/10/2019, 11:12:25 PM1 votes

sivir and mana wtf what about soraka unplayableness she was so good in 2013 soraka jungle for ever pre blue smite …

MrNuclearPumpkin7/10/2019, 11:59:34 PM1 votes

So many r/whoosh

Chromatic Eagle7/11/2019, 12:03:44 AM1 votes

As one of five Sivir mains, I’m glad she’s mentioned.

destroyer227197/11/2019, 12:55:01 AM1 votes

Sivir has been dominant with a strong laning phase, strong utility, strong wave clear, strong late game, and does well in every matchup.

AlterMordred7/11/2019, 3:59:33 AM1 votes

All thats left is a -5 move speed nerf