Is Shaco still viable?

Paldox··1 votes·1,083 views

I started yesterday, I'm level 8 and I want to play as Shaco, is he still viable? (Note i'm also thinking of Fiddlesticks, which is more noob friendly?) These are apparently "jungle" characters which seems complicated for me as I do not understand this mechanic too well and the various routes and bosses depending on your side, etc, it seems harder than laneing what is recommended? And how should I practice jungling (to familiarize myself with routes), against bots?

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The Bearded Bard3 votes

You're level 8. Don't worry about playing what's viable, play what's fun.

ReshiKillim3 votes

If you want to learn how to Shaco, I suggest checking out Shaclone and Pink Ward on youtube. Shaco is one of the most varied champs in play styles and tricks, you can learn a good number of them from those two people.

As Shaco can be played AP, AD, or Bruiser/Tank, there's a lot of variability in what you can do. Good luck, and happy clowning!

~A wild Shaco main

Shac Norris1 votes

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Basically this!

Trust me, i have experience.

trash sion2 votes

I'd start by learning jungle mechanics before learning harder jungle champs. Start out with Xin or Yi, and go from there. Easy champions will help you learn how to clear the jungle and gank, which is the basis for harder champs. The thing with Shaco is that he relies on an early lead in order to do well, and you'll have to further change your playstyle to suit that. If you'd like to learn a bit more about jungling, feel free to add me in-game.

TeemoJenkins2 votes

Vi and Warwick are the two most "new player" friendly junglers in my opinion. They can be built tank, damage, or a hybrid and be very successful. Also at early levels Warwicks sustain makes his early clears very bearable without runes and masteries to bolster you.

Verxint1 votes

Shack is just barely viable, but only with a skilled player. He takes a lot of mindgame and out-thinking your opponents. Fiddle is easier but still tricky.

If you actually want to jungle, start with something straightforward like Xin.

Paldox1 votes

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Shack is just barely viable, but only with a skilled player. He takes a lot of mindgame and out-thinking your opponents. Fiddle is easier but still tricky.

If you actually want to jungle, start with something straightforward like Xin.

Thanks, i'll try and pick him up to get used to it

Bondage Bunnyboy1 votes

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Shack is just barely viable, but only with a skilled player. He takes a lot of mindgame and out-thinking your opponents. Fiddle is easier but still tricky.

If you actually want to jungle, start with something straightforward like Xin.

Xin's so boring though. At least Shaco can be fun while you troll the fk out of the enemies with your boxes and Deceive... Xin just charges in and either dies or gets a kill...

Vi would be a better start if not Shaco. They're both AD, they both have good/high single target damage, and can both be played as assassins.

Verxint1 votes

Vi is another good one, I just took the first easy jungler i thought of.

TekkenPlayer1 votes

The lack of ww in this thread is disturbing

Vesarixx1 votes

Every champion can be viable, just play what you want. Shaco is a pure cheese champion, you basically troll your enemies until you win, so if that sounds like your kind of thing go for it.

Paldox1 votes

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Every champion can be viable, just play what you want. Shaco is a pure cheese champion, you basically troll your enemies until you win, so if that sounds like your kind of thing go for it.

How can I do that? xD

Vesarixx1 votes

Typically Shaco will take ignite/smite, you don't need flash because of your Q, set up boxes at your first buff, kill it without smiting and then head directly into the enemy jungle to take their buff, kill them, or both. from there invade the enemy jungler as much as you can to set them behind by counter jungling them or just killing them, gank any lanes that are overextended, if you recall in a bush place a box under your feet before recalling. Typical Shaco build item 1400 item 3074 item 3087, for boots go item 3006 for more splitpushing, item 3158 if you need more cool downs to make plays, or item 3117 for the map presence.

Basically if every time the enemy tries to do something there is suddenly an evil clown in their face and they're losing a ton of health, you're playing Shaco right.

Paldox1 votes

I'll try seems a bit complicated though :)

OperationDEEZ11 votes

Shaco's great if you don't want to have any friends.

SnazzyTheMister1 votes

for a new player i think you will have more fun playing someone like xin because hes more forgiving while learning. if you find that you like the jungle role maybe consider picking up shaco but he needs more understanding of the role and game because hes an assassin type champion who are more fragile by nature. also i wouldn't worry to much about jungling until you are about lvl 12, at that point you will have some mastery points, smite and maybe some armor runes which will all make it easier yo clear the jungle.

A Latte Deaths1 votes

Shaco will always be viable. Fiddlesticks is definitely more noob-friendly, but Shaco is far more fun with much more outplay potential.

Jungling isn't any harder than laning. It requires a different set of skills and much less mechanical ability. I don't recommend you jungle at such a low level since you still need to learn laning mechanics such as last hitting/csing, trading, etc.

Choaru1 votes

Pssstttt I know this thread is like 2 days old, but I guess the more input the better :3

Tbh like many other people mentioned, basically any champion is viable depending on who plays them. I love Shaco because he has a relativity fast jungle camp clear, his q is basically a flash so running ignite and smite for first blood always is a good thing. And his ult is the most amazing thing in history...sorta xD

For fiddlesticks you always start on the side with blue buff ovo you uh...get a leash at froggie and smite it, goto blue buff and just drain it until it is done. Fiddlesticks is pretty straight forward;however, once he uses his q and e he is a squishy target so I would be careful.

If you are wanting to learn jungle routes then doing bots is fine, but the main point of Shaco is that his level 2 is very very strong. Depending on the enemy jungler, and you will have to learn about other junglers to do this, you will be able to counter jungler (take their jungle monsters) and kill them at their major buff :) or if you see the enemy midlander/top/bot pushed hard try to go gank that lane. Say you are going against an udyr, and you know that you will have to do a normal jungler clear. Place two boxes at Krugs( so when they spawn the boxes will attack the big krug) and you and to place two boxes at the enterance of red buff :) kill Krugs take a point in e goto red buff and e it and lure it to the boxes and have them tank it for you. And proceed to clear your jungle..... you have any other questions you can always ask me ,w,

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