I just played Pantheon as support (autofill) because I didn't want to be a babysitter

TayIcknay·Mar 19, 2017·2 votes·698 views

I went 5-0 with couple of assists and I got an S+. Really, just that should tell you enough about this grading system. I've had games where I've been working my ass to play well, and never gotten an S when I thought I should. This is all in response to not getting a loot chest in days, with keys just being flung around like they even matter (I haven't dropped below 2 keys in months, always have shards to craft new ones).

P.S. This was in ranked, btw.

17 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSoMar 19, 20177 votes

well the reason you got the S+ is panth isnt normally played as a support and you had a good game so there its bound to be better then average for a panth support.

grades are based on champ played in certain role and how you perform based on an average of your typically play on that champ and compared with the rest of league.

so like for me who mains maokai top i have gotten alot of A+s when someone who dont play him as often would of got an S+ for the same game due to the fact that i have so many games on him with a higher damage dealt, kda, cs ,gold etc so i have to be better then my average plus better then the average player on maokai top to get S+ ratings normally.

Asayake 5150glowMar 19, 20171 votes

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well the reason you got the S+ is panth isnt normally played as a support and you had a good game so there its bound to be better then average for a panth support.

grades are based on champ played in certain role and how you perform based on an average of your typically play on that champ and compared with the rest of league.

so like for me who mains maokai top i have gotten alot of A+s when someone who dont play him as often would of got an S+ for the same game due to the fact that i have so many games on him with a higher damage dealt, kda, cs ,gold etc so i have to be better then my average plus better then the average player on maokai top to get S+ ratings normally.

Oh, I thought it was just based on the total average? It's measured to your own average as well? Never knew that.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoMar 19, 20171 votes

well that is my assumption based on playing maokai so many times... and having really really good games. and knowing i have had games where i flat out carried as mao, in damage, kills, gold ,cs, etc and its games like that is where i get my S+ ratings

if i do just really good for me ill get A+

like its impossible unless i go a kda over 6.00 as mao and have like no deaths and lots of damage to get an S+ any more

oSEXYPLATYPUSoMar 19, 20171 votes

also have you ever noticed that 1st time you get an S+ on champ wasnt all that hard but to constantly get S, S+ to gain mastery tokens to get lvl 6, 7 are always harder?

Asayake 5150glowMar 19, 20171 votes

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also have you ever noticed that 1st time you get an S+ on champ wasnt all that hard but to constantly get S, S+ to gain mastery tokens to get lvl 6, 7 are always harder?

Yeah... that's true.

Maximum MordeMar 20, 20171 votes

It doesn't measure you against yourself, but against the avg sperformance.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoMar 20, 20171 votes

but it does because your preformances go into the averages

Maximum MordeMar 20, 20171 votes

Technically true, but from an applications standpoint, irrelevant. Data set is too large for one addition to matter significantly. Much like the US Election process.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoMar 20, 20171 votes

but why is it for when you are on your main and you do above average as compared to every one else but below your typical performance you get grades lower then S? and when you really really perform highly on your champ its harder and harder to get S ratings?

Maximum MordeMar 20, 20171 votes

Cause over time the average performance is driven up collectively by the community. You have everything else right though.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoMar 20, 20171 votes

well this is all assumptions and speculations of course... some might say educated guesses cuz until riot officially releases all details and formulas for the grading system no one truly knows

Maximum MordeMar 20, 20171 votes

True, this is the only official information I can remember seeing.

Grades

At the end of your game, you can hover over your Champion Mastery points bar to see the grade our new system gives you. These grades are awarded based on your overall performance in the role, the champion you're playing and, crucially, where you're playing them. For example, we look at an Annie going mid differently from an Annie going support. We take a series of performance metrics and compare how you did to all other players in your region in that specific champion/position combination.

This is percentile-driven; earning a high score means you performed in the top x% of players in that champion/position combination.

But I wouldn't put it past Riot to say one thing and do something different.

Umbral RegentMar 19, 20172 votes

That doesn't say anything about the grading system, it just says "you played a Champion in a role they're not popular in so had an easier time hitting the highest average of players with that Champion in that role".