(Read what everyone has said befor you post or dislike my post) lol ik I will get so much hate for this but after lux was nerfed she became obsolete. She has no health she has one of the Shittiest shields in the game no movement speed, she can't support compared to any other support, literally anything can kill her, she has no exscape......etc lux is trash now and she can't keep up in any of her fields.
UnboundHades8 votesSHE'S NOT A SUPPORT
lightlord102 votesSHE'S NOT A SUPPORT
Search up Lux role it comes up as a support and a mage
Nidken3 votesshe isnt weak
lightlord101 votesshe isnt weak
I did not say she is weak but her cons out way her pros by so much
Vanic9982 votesDidn't riot recently buff her ultimate?
lightlord101 votesDidn't riot recently buff her ultimate?
I don't think so but if they did it did not help much. And I dont want her ultimate to be buffed that's not her problem
Mr Mochí1 votesIts got a partial cooldown reset if she gets a kill with it so that late game it's up every 18 seconds (ish) [if she kills with it]
LethalTempo Jhin1 votesWell yeah, but that was a buff that really didn't help her in a high-MMR + proplay.
That was a buff that made her a bit more noobstomp-y.
Nipsahoy2 votesLux is in a pretty bad state in my opinion. She's fine for bronze/silver pub stomping but once you get to higher ELOs and people are good at dodging skillshots she's pretty easy to beat. She can still be good if she pops off but it happens much less often. She often sacrifices wave clear for harassment and her mana costs are fairly high early on. Her shield is pretty horrible also despite the recent buff.
lightlord101 votesLux is in a pretty bad state in my opinion. She's fine for bronze/silver pub stomping but once you get to higher ELOs and people are good at dodging skillshots she's pretty easy to beat. She can still be good if she pops off but it happens much less often. She often sacrifices wave clear for harassment and her mana costs are fairly high early on. Her shield is pretty horrible also despite the recent buff.
I agree
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesLux Support has a win rate 46.20% for Platinum+ players whilst the very best Lux's are earning a win rate of 55.40% with the average rank of these top players being in Diamond IV.
LoLalytics ranks Lux at 35 amongst Support champions earning a tier grade of Silver.
This ranking takes into account the win rate of Platinum+ players, the pick/ban influence of Lux, the win rate and average rank of the best Lux players.
http://current.lolalytics.com/champion/Lux/Support/
SHE RANKS 35TH AT SUPPORT !!!!
she isnt a support... she cant protect the adc, she cant stop dives/engages her only form of CC is her Q and if she misses she and the adc are dead her entire kit is damage her shield is sub par at best and cant really target any one with it she cant enhance anything the adc does
lightlord101 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cEAXfjQi,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-08-04T05:09:05.587+0000)
Lux Support has a win rate 46.20% for Platinum+ players whilst the very best Lux's are earning a win rate of 55.40% with the average rank of these top players being in Diamond IV.
LoLalytics ranks Lux at 35 amongst Support champions earning a tier grade of Silver.
This ranking takes into account the win rate of Platinum+ players, the pick/ban influence of Lux, the win rate and average rank of the best Lux players.
http://current.lolalytics.com/champion/Lux/Support/
SHE RANKS 35TH AT SUPPORT !!!!
she isnt a support... she cant protect the adc, she cant stop dives/engages her only form of CC is her Q and if she misses she and the adc are dead her entire kit is damage her shield is sub par at best and cant really target any one with it she cant enhance anything the adc does
You are contradicting your self but I agree with what you are saying you stated fact and observation but you forgot to point out that she is used only 9%
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteshow am i contradicting myself ?
plz explain
lightlord101 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cEAXfjQi,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-08-04T06:38:39.668+0000)
how am i contradicting myself ?
plz explain
You started out saying how lux is doing good and how she does not have problems then go to say what is wrong with lux had that's she can't do stuff for example "SHE RANKS 35TH AT SUPPORT" "she is not a support...." etc
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesI STARTED OUT SAYING HER STATS AS A SUPPORT WHICH RANK HER 35TH AMONG ALL SUPPORTS
35TH!!
THAT IS HORRIBLE SHE HAS A 46.20% WIN RATE IN THAT ROLE ( PLAT + ELOS )
NOT ONCE DID I MENTION HER IN A GOOD LIGHT
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesMages
Burst Mages
Syndra Veigar Annie Twisted Fate Ahri Lissandra Lux (hybrid Artillery) Viktor Brand (hybrid Battle Mage) https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list
lightlord101 votesIf you look at her profile she is a mage support and no they did not. Her ability cooldowns are long AF and she has no mobility or escape whatsoever. And mana is a huge problem with full AP builds. Her E (most damaging ability) drains it all up and costs more to use than her ult at upgrade level 4.
Lux can get two shot by a fed assasin, and once her snare is dodged, she's just done. Like many other champs, she requires skillshots to function.
lightlord101 votesSearch up lux role and see what comes up
Killed Inaction1 votesShe's objectively better than Brand and Zyra as support, so I guess that means they're worse than trash.
Really sick of people saying she's not a support without even taking a second to think about it. You've been perpetuating a cycle of it since Season 4 or earlier, all because one high ELO person said it once (and yes, this has been perpetuated in high ELO as well. You know about the biscuit potion mastery that heals for 15 health instantly upon being consumed, that has all the LCS players using multiple of them at once in a short combat? That heal only activates once the duration of that specific one has started, so it's actually just a waste of gold. The more you know, right?).
Please try to examine what you're saying to see if it even makes any sense before you say it, and look at stuff in-game before assuming it just because you've seen it spread around like a plague.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesZyra Support has a win rate 49.02% for Platinum+ players whilst the very best Zyra's are earning a win rate of 54.98% with the average rank of these top players being in Diamond IV.
LoLalytics ranks Zyra at 27 amongst Support champions earning a tier grade of Gold.
This ranking takes into account the win rate of Platinum+ players, the pick/ban influence of Zyra, the win rate and average rank of the best Zyra players.
Lux Support has a win rate 46.20% for Platinum+ players whilst the very best Lux's are earning a win rate of 55.40% with the average rank of these top players being in Diamond IV.
LoLalytics ranks Lux at 35 amongst Support champions earning a tier grade of Silver.
This ranking takes into account the win rate of Platinum+ players, the pick/ban influence of Lux, the win rate and average rank of the best Lux players.
Brand Support has a win rate 50.50% for Platinum+ players whilst the very best Brand's are earning a win rate of 57.04% with the average rank of these top players being in Diamond IV.
LoLalytics ranks Brand at 6 amongst Support champions earning a tier grade of Diamond.
This ranking takes into account the win rate of Platinum+ players, the pick/ban influence of Brand, the win rate and average rank of the best Brand players.
brand ranks 6 among supports, zyra 27th and lux is 35
lux is by far the worst support of the 3
Killed Inaction2 votesThat's a problem with the players, not the champion. People tend to play Lux "support" when they don't want to actually support. She has better base combat stats and higher scaling, meaning if the person playing her knows how to avoid damage at all, she's a better support. Additionally, she has a shield (which was recently significantly buffed), giving her supportive utility Brand and Zyra don't have.
Over this season, I have a 52% win rate as Lux support. Recently, my win rate has been close to 60%. That isn't luck. She has utility and the base damage, along with the greater range, that Brand and Zyra lack.
Lux support has been stigmatized and labeled trash for so long that people only play her when they don't want to support. Again, that's a problem with the players, not with the champion.
lightlord101 votes[{quoted}](name=Killed Inaction,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cEAXfjQi,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2017-08-04T07:37:56.453+0000)
That's a problem with the players, not the champion. People tend to play Lux "support" when they don't want to actually support. She has better base combat stats and higher scaling, meaning if the person playing her knows how to avoid damage at all, she's a better support. Additionally, she has a shield (which was recently significantly buffed), giving her supportive utility Brand and Zyra don't have.
Over this season, I have a 52% win rate as Lux support. Recently, my win rate has been close to 60%. That isn't luck. She has utility and the base damage, along with the greater range, that Brand and Zyra lack.
Lux support has been stigmatized and labeled trash for so long that people only play her when they don't want to support. Again, that's a problem with the players, not with the champion.
Agreed but I am talking about the champion over all
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesbut she isnt a good support
i rather have zyra any day as a support. she has cc, poke, zone, anti dive and damage
and can be effective building tankish ap
Killed Inaction1 votesLux has CC, poke, zoning, more damage (base and scaling both), and shields. What do you mean by "anti dive"? You've used the term several times without ever clarifying what you mean by that.
Here, I've worked it out, if you care to see what I mean.
Lux: Snare (Q) damage: 50/100/150/200/250 base (maximum early-game: 100/200/300 base, 2 targets) Cooldown: 13/12.5/12/11.5/11 seconds (maximum damage per second: 7.7/16/25 base, 2 targets)
Damage denial (W): 150/195/240/285/330 base (maximum early-game: 450/585/720 base, 3 targets—300/390/480 base, 2 targets) Cooldown: 14/13/12/11/10 base (maximum denial per second: 32.14/45/60 base, 3 targets—21.43/30/40 base, 2 targets)
AoE (E) damage: 60/105/150/195/240 base (maximum early-game: 180/315/450 base, 3 targets—120/210/300 base, 2 targets) Cooldown: 10 seconds (maximum damage per second: 18/31.5/45 base, 3 targets—12/21/30 base, 2 targets)
Ultimate damage: 300/400/500 base (maximum early-game: 900 base, 3 targets—600 base, 2 targets) Cooldown: 80/65/50 seconds (maximum damage per second: 11.25 base, 3 targets—7.5 base, 2 targets)
Collected maximum damage, full burst at 6: 852.5 base (including passive), 2 targets with 25.22% MR. Collected maximum damage denial at 6: 300 Damage quality at 6: 1152.5 base
Damage per second at 6: 33.8 (no passive) base, 2 targets with 25.22% MR—39 (1 passive proc per 10 seconds) base, 2 targets with 25.22% MR Damage denial per second at 6: 21.43 base, 2 targets Damage per second quality at 6: 60.43 base
Zyra: Snare (E) damage: 60/95/130/165/200 base (maximum early-game: 180/285/390 base, 3 targets—120/190/260 base, 2 targets) Cooldown: 12 seconds (maximum damage per second: 15/23.75/32.5 base, 3 targets—10/15.83/21.67 base, 2 targets)
AoE (Q) damage: 60/95/130/165/200 base (maximum early-game: 180/285/390 base, 3 targets—120/190/260 base, 2 targets) Cooldown: 7/6.5/6/5.5/5 seconds (maximum damage per second: 25.71/43.85/65 base, 3 targets—17.14/29.23/43.3 base, 2 targets)
Ultimate damage: 180/265/350 base (maximum early-game: 540 base, 3 targets—360 base, 2 targets) Cooldown: 130/120/110 seconds (maximum damage per second: 4.15 base, 3 targets—2.77 base, 2 targets)
Collected maximum damage, full burst at 6: 962.8 base (including 3 plants), 2 targets with 25.22% MR Damage quality at 6: 962.8 base
Damage per second at 6: 58.0 base (assuming 1 plant attack every other second), 2 targets with 25.22% MR Damage per second quality at 6: 58.0 base
Brand: Stun (Q) damage: 80/110/140/170/200 base (maximum early-game: 80/110/140 base, 1 target) Cooldown: 8/7.5/7/6.5/6 seconds (maximum damage per second: 10/14.67/23.3 base, 1 target)
AoE (W) damage: 75/120/165/210/255 base (maximum early-game: 225/360/495 base, 3 targets—150/240/330 base, 2 targets) Cooldown: 10/9.5/9/8.5/8 seconds (maximum damage per second: 22.5/37.89/55 base, 3 targets—15/25.26/36.67 base, 2 targets)
Single target (E) damage: 70/90/110/130/150 base (maximum early-game: 210/270/330 base, 3 targets—140/180/220 base, 2 targets—70/90/110 base, 1 target) Cooldown: 10/9/8/7/6 seconds (maximum damage per second: 21/30/41.25 base, 3 targets—14/20/27.5 base, 2 targets—7/10/13.75 base, 1 target)
Ultimate damage: 500/1000/1500 base (maximum early-game: 500 base, 2 targets) Cooldown: 105/90/75 seconds (maximum damage per second: 4.76 base, 2 targets)
Collected maximum damage, full burst at 6 (W>E/Q>Q/E>R): 1026.88 base, 2 targets with 25.22% MR Damage quality at 6: 1026.88 base
Damage per second at 6: 67 base (including full passive), 2 targets with 25.22% MR Damage per second quality at 6: 67 base
Disregarding mana costs (none of these should be running out of mana in the support role), Lux has higher damage per second quality (damage + damage denial) than Zyra, but lower than Brand. Lux also has significantly higher burst potential/denial in an all-in.
Lux isn't meant to be a poke support, as much as Brand and Zyra. She keeps the two laners from taking damage until an all-in opportunity. She can still poke a significant amount, but it's clear here that her all-in is more powerful.
She has the utility required for being a support, and her early-game is not weakened by "low base damage" (as so many people are fond of saying). Just going off base damages, she is easily as strong as either of these supports. There is no reason to prefer Zyra or Brand over Lux.
Does this make sense?
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesno reason did you not see the stats ranking LUX the 35th best option at support?
that list both brand and zyra better and both of them having a higher win rate at that position?
lux isnt a support people need to stop playing her there. they are hurting their team more then hurting
AND BRAND AND ZYRA BOTH HAVE BETTER DAMAGES EARLY GAME WITH LESS AP THEN LUX
Killed Inaction1 votesSince you didn't read my comments, I'm going to stop responding to you. Believe what you will.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesthe fact that you ignore the stats and ranking of her as a support and want to argue that she is viable at support is why your comment was ignored.
she is a mage... she isnt an adc, a support, a tank ,
its not a matter of believing is a matter of fact
Mr Mochí2 votesLux Support main unite! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Caytheles1 votesShittiest shields? Tell that to Rakan -_- the one who has to dive into someone to get a shield the size of my green crispy MnM (they are delish you should try some, they sell them at Circle K).
lightlord101 votesYou don't need to get all caps I am here because I want to see what everyone has to say and learn and look at different perspectives I am sorry I stand corrected mrfawknsunshine but we both agree on what we are saying and thank you everyone for commenting
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesi put in caps cuz i thought it be easier for you to read cuz when it wasnt in caps you didnt grasp the context of my comment
they buff her damage , they buffed her ult giving it a cd reset then this last patch they just buffed her more for mid lane
they know she isnt viable as a support at all and buffed damages to help her in mid
Q - Light Binding COOLDOWN 15/14/13/12/11 seconds ⇒ 13/12.5/12/11.5/11 seconds
lightlord101 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cEAXfjQi,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2017-08-04T07:00:16.621+0000)
i put in caps cuz i thought it be easier for you to read cuz when it wasnt in caps you didnt grasp the context of my comment
they buff her damage , they buffed her ult giving it a cd reset then this last patch they just buffed her more for mid lane
they know she isnt viable as a support at all and buffed damages to help her in mid
Q - Light Binding COOLDOWN 15/14/13/12/11 seconds ⇒ 13/12.5/12/11.5/11 seconds
Ok but if they are doing that then they still need to change or get rid of her shield and she still has no excape,is SUPER squishy..... I already wrote this all out etc
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesshe is a long range burst mage ... she should be squishy.
her shield is a bit gimmicky ill give you that... another ability might be better suited the rest of her kit works fine as a burst/zone mage
lightlord101 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cEAXfjQi,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-04T07:09:08.848+0000)
she is a long range burst mage ... she should be squishy.
her shield is a bit gimmicky ill give you that... another ability might be better suited the rest of her kit works fine as a burst/zone mage
I agree with most of what you are saying but the are so may cons with this character in particular in my opinion and I wanted to hear other people's opinions thank you
Ada Wong1 votesWTF are you talking about lol?
is awesome.
Best ADC in the game? 
lightlord101 votesOk I am going to go to bed now keep this thread going I will read and respond later but I still think that she is to squishy, too mana hungry, need to do something with that shield (it could help her squishiness), has no escape, her movement speed is SUPER SLOW, and I feel like this character can be made better in so many ways by doing so many different things.(there are more things that need fixing if you want to know just look back in the thread) I am not asking her to be a god but just a character that is somewhat on par with the other champions
lightlord101 votesOk I am going to go to bed now keep this thread going I will read and respond later but I still think that she is to squishy, too mana hungry, need to do something with that shield (it could help her squishiness), has no escape, her movement speed is SUPER SLOW, and I feel like this character can be made better in so many ways by doing so many different things.(there are more things that need fixing if you want to know just look back in the thread) I am not asking her to be a god but just a character that is somewhat on par with the other champions
I actually like her having that should it just needs improvement and or perks
lightlord101 votesI actually like her having that should it just needs improvement and or perks
Ada Wong1 votesOk I am going to go to bed now keep this thread going I will read and respond later but I still think that she is to squishy, too mana hungry, need to do something with that shield (it could help her squishiness), has no escape, her movement speed is SUPER SLOW, and I feel like this character can be made better in so many ways by doing so many different things.(there are more things that need fixing if you want to know just look back in the thread) I am not asking her to be a god but just a character that is somewhat on par with the other champions
It's called learning to trade personally IMO there are better supports especially in lower ELO but Lux is still great.
lightlord101 votesDon't get me wrong I love playing lux I think she is great but she has major flaws. But it's not just the champion it is the player playing the champion. In my case it is not I just wanted to State that. Yes if you have skill and play smart you can overcome the issues in an character witch I have but I feel to improve the game play you need to improve what you are playing with
lightlord101 votesDon't get me wrong I love playing lux I think she is great but she has major flaws. But it's not just the champion it is the player playing the champion. In my case it is not I just wanted to State that. Yes if you have skill and play smart you can overcome the issues in an character witch I have but I feel to improve the game play you need to improve what you are playing with
Did not mean to be cocky sorry
Mr Mochí1 votesLux definitely isn't trash. I would say, however, that she relies heavily on her team to help late game for peeling as well as not feeding their lane (F***ing don't let your top laner feed Olaf). As with every mid-laner matchups matter as well as rune setups. You don't take her against a Gal, Malz, Annie, Talon, Ahri, or Akali. Notice these picks show up on a regular basis which means if you pick Lux into one of these picks you will have a bad time. (Granted that the enemy player knows how to play them correctly)
So I am currious, do people actually not build Athena's Unholy Grail on Support Lux. Given her poke and shield, shouldn't she be one of the best enchanter supports especially now that her shield has been buffed and so has the item. (You double heal with her shield)
Also, PLEASE stop talking about my main girl like she needs a rework or buff that will ultimately make her unplayable because of resulting community backlash that gets her dmg sliced because Riot is notorious for not reverting reworks that weren't needed (CoughLeBlanc) Lux is perfectly fine where she is. It's the meta that you're annoyed with not the champion balance.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesyou would think it would be good to get unholy grail but i dont think she can effectively shield compared to any other champ with a shield. her shield isnt point n click it has to travel out and hit the ally and if they move or whatever it dont hit them then its just wasted .
now unholy grail on morgana with her black shield you got something
Mr Mochí1 voteshttp://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2564588177/207266115?tab=stats
I mean... it is slower that other shields, but do you need to shield when you can delete also? also the pairing of Redemption on her plus the Athene's is actually not bad. Too bad my Twitch fed early and my Kalista had subpar positioning.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteswell you are one of the few lux support players i ever seen build SUP items
i have some i cant reason with to even get a fucking
which drives me insane im a support main myself... and when i adc i pray i dont get a lux
people thing they need to rush items like 
on her as a support , i have even seen someone rush 
FML
i legit hate playing adc due to the way most people play , no protection, no peel, every one wants to do damage no tanks .
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Mr Mochí1 votesoh, ya I rarely get anything other than . It's way too efficient to pass up because you get all stacks of the wards early meaning you can sustain your warding and you don't have to sacrifice an item slot like 
requires you to.
Unpaladin1 votesLux will never be obsolete unless she gets absolutely annihilated by three or more nerfs at once. She's so good at being a barebones mage it hurts, and it hurts more knowing Riot wants to amp up her utility every season when she's already capable of showing up when the meta shifts naturally.