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The Way To Balance Garen

THEREALJERJER··2 votes·887 views

Ok, so Garen is dumb. We all know it. It doesn't seem like he has any clear counter. The most infuriating thing about Garen in my opinion is his Q. Specifically the silence that he applies. At all ranks, his Q silences you for 1.5 seconds (before tenacity). I think Garen would just be a more balanced champion if his silence was halved in duration. You can leave everything else about Garen untouched, but just tweaking that silence would make him much more fair. Any thoughts on this?

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Critmaster Garen2 votes

what the fuck am i reading? is this season 1 again?

garen barely has any good lane matchups. before lvl 7, hes really only good against idiots.

Saevum1 votes

And villans

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Garens Q isn't a problem at all. The problem is that stupid villain gimmick that they still haven't gotten rid of.

THEREALJERJER1 votes

I agree that the villain thing is pretty dumb, but think about it. In lane, Garen is pretty much guaranteed a good trade with his Q. For 1.5 seconds, all you can do against him is auto as he either runs away or spins on you. While both things are stupid, I think Rito should start with tweaking his Q to balance him. But I HATE THE VILLAIN THING![sg-shisa]

Jamaree1 votes

What do you mean he doesn't have any clear counters, his counters literally haven't since his inception: Ranged champions who can kite. Teemo, Vlad, Kennen, you just poke him down and keep him away from people the whole game, there is a reason he doesn't see any real play past Gold elo.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

OMG I love this dude. Garen's silence drives me fuckin mad. I've wished for years now that one day Riot will remove it.

Baron Von Garen1 votes

There are only 7 champions in the game that have a silence Soraka Blitzcrank Kassadin Chogath Malzahar Fiddlesticks Garen .

You can remove Soraka Kassadin Blitzcrank because soraka's is only in effect while you are standing in the circle, which is completely avoidable. Kass and blitz are only slight interruptions, meaning they basically just stop channeled abilities. So now you've got 4 champs with an actual silence.

Chogath 's W starts at 1.6 seconds, is AOE, and has range. So already it's better than Garen's Q. It then scales up to 2 seconds in duration.

Fiddlesticks E is 1.25 seconds, can hit 5 targets, is point and click, and again, ranged (You can see where im going with the whole range thing)

Malzahar Q is 1 second, aoe, and ranged. It scales up to 2 seconds.

If you want to whine about silence durations, you need to whine about all three of these first. Garen has very telegraphed abilities and you always know what he's going to do when he's about to do it. Most melee top laners do pretty well against Garen, and aren't affected that much by the silence.

My thoughts on this are that you need to learn how to play against Garen. He's the easiest champ in the game for a reason.

Does he need nerfed? No

Does he need buffed? Maybe

Does he need a kit rework? Definitely

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