Best Duelist in the game

paperbIade··2 votes·26,601 views

Well who is it

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skyfall6195 votes

Malzahar keep ignoring me fools. you will all see my might. ill show you my hidden no counterplay 100-0 technique even on the tankiest of foes.

Slushi Simcambi4 votes

fadora. Firda

This one.Fiora

TheOvermind4 votes

It always was and it always will be the champ himself Jax

ActuallyArrow3 votes

Yu-Gi-Oh

Only Play Darius3 votes

Nasus

Literally no one can 1v1 him once he reaches 600 stacks.

draig0n1 votes

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Nasus

Literally no one can 1v1 him once he reaches 600 stacks.

aatrox jax

TheOvermind1 votes

Darius and garen very easily because true damage executes and nasus can't lifesteal through their armor. Master yi melts him because he is immune to atk speed slows which nasus relies heavily on to beat melee carries. And jax because well jax beats everyone but also because jax can just e whenever he is withered. Im probably forgetting a bunch too

AlwaysByMySide1 votes

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Darius and garen very easily because true damage executes and nasus can't lifesteal through their armor. Master yi melts him because he is immune to atk speed slows which nasus relies heavily on to beat melee carries. And jax because well jax beats everyone but also because jax can just e whenever he is withered. Im probably forgetting a bunch too

Of the ones you listed, only a Garen using the Villain mechanic and Master Yi can duel a stacked Nasus.

TheOvermind1 votes

you are wrong. As an avid Darius player ill tell you that late game nasus cant touch darius. Ive beaten 1v1 Many Nasus players and i dont even have to break sweat. You know why? because Darius heals more than Nasus. why? because nasus cant dodge his Q if darius leades with w. And Nasus doesnt lifssteal well vs tanks. ALso Darius does moe damage than Nasus . WHy? because 25% armor pen passive + 30% armor reduduction from cleaver, + 1000 true damage execute. compared to the petty 400 physical dmg Q of nasus ( calculated after armor). and a lil bit of magic dmg from his ulti.

Jax beats everyone 1v1, cause his kit scales amazingly well with items. A 6 item Jax is better than any other 6 item champion in the game in 1v1. ALso Nasus' Q no longer goes through Jax's E, so basically if Jax buys Mercs and uses E every time he is withered, it's like Nasus can't take advantage of Jax's reduced atk speed for that duration. LAso Jaxes mixed damage and constant sheen procs is way too hard for nasus to itemize against.

Now im assuming here The Nasus player has a reasonable number of stacks, and both champions are 6 items and lv 18. If Nasus has more 500 by 20 mins that means he is snowballing really hard and is not very realistic. By deep late game (50 mins) he shoulnt have more than 1000. These numbers I consider a well stacked Nasus

Sanctimonious1 votes

Kayle item 3111 item 3139 item 3116 You're never touching me, and i deal damage like a Kog.

youngjake933 votes

Worth mentioning: Heimerdinger- Can 1v1 most duelists fairly easily Kha'Zix- Although he's not strong now, he still is pretty dang good at isolated 1v1s Renekton- The duelist that doesn't have to wait until level 14 to 1v1 everyone Garen- I'm not sure he can actually lose a 1v1. He usually has enough escapability and tankiness if it goes south. Meanwhile, he can usually win if his 3 minute CD ult is up. It's just unfortunate that their Flash CD is almost as short.

FIZZ TOP- Press R, three shot bruisers. It might be that I'm just not used to him being in the meta yet, but he seems impossible to straight up duel even moreso than Jax, Nasus and Trynadmere. The only real answer is shutting him down early. Even against a fed Nasus you can kite/build armor.

JtheCool3 votes

If built correctly, I'd say Aatrox is up there for best duelist in the game. item 3718 item 3153 item 3262 item 3143 item 3065 item 3026 Aatrox Comes to about 2.05 attack speed with well used bloodwell, 210 ad, over 200 mr and armor, insane sustain with w and item 3065, challenging smite, and attack speed jungling item damage amounting to over 100 extra magic damage per hit late game.

Terff2 votes

I always think of jax when people talk about amazing duelists

Rengar is pretty good too.

Despite her title Fiora is pretty subpar at dueling.

paperbIade2 votes

I heard nasus can beat jax

draig0n1 votes

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I heard nasus can beat jax

not a hybrid jax :))) bork guinsoo hextach sterak bloodrazor frozen heart

draig0n1 votes

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I always think of jax when people talk about amazing duelists

Rengar is pretty good too.

Despite her title Fiora is pretty subpar at dueling.

jax in most scenarios but a fizz can destroy him

BakedLotion2 votes

Rammus if hes against AD champs. He can 2v1 if he builds full armor leleelelelle

ShadowScorpionX2 votes

vayne

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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vayne

i tend to agree. because vaynes kit has no ability that has any form of counterplay. the best you can do is throw down a pink ward against her stealth. but that doesnt diminish her duelling potential. the only way to beat a vayne 1v1 is to be able to stat check her. which most champions simply arent by midgame.

on the other hand she has plenty tools to ouplay her opponent. a 6 item vayne will beat a 6 item jax or irelia.

AlwaysByMySide1 votes

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i tend to agree. because vaynes kit has no ability that has any form of counterplay. the best you can do is throw down a pink ward against her stealth. but that doesnt diminish her duelling potential. the only way to beat a vayne 1v1 is to be able to stat check her. which most champions simply arent by midgame.

on the other hand she has plenty tools to ouplay her opponent. a 6 item vayne will beat a 6 item jax or irelia.

A six item Jax will nearly one-shot a six item Vayne, while also being immune to her only real damage for much of the fight. He also tends to get quite a bit of armour from his items, as well as a Sterak's Gage, which counters Vayne's silver bolts (shields are the best defense against percent hp true damage).

A six item Master Yi can duel Vayne even more easily, since a good Yi can Q her condemn, and is far too fast for her to try kiting.

Tryndamere gets five seconds to be completely immune to Vayne's damage, and can kill her in two or three auto attacks.

A six item Yasuo is just as mobile as Vayne if not more-so, and if he hits his ult he will kill her in short order. He can also completely no-sell her auto attacks and condemn with wind wall.

A six item Rengar will do to Vayne what a six item Rengar does to every bot lane ADC.

A six item Olaf will run a six item Vayne down like the degenerate she is.

I also am pretty sure a six item full tank Mordekaiser (yes) would be virtually immune to Vayne's damage in a 1v1 and would probably either kill her or force her to flee.

Don't get me wrong, Vayne is an extremely good duelist. But she's not unbeatable.

Also, why do you so transparently post with an agenda in mine?

Bârd2 votes

A challenger Vayne.

Axrios2 votes

Nasus thenJax thenTryndamere then MasterYi thenPoppy thenFiora then Bronze Vayne

ks9162 votes

The best duelest is actually the legendary 6 item POPPY!!!!

SpecterVonBaren5 votes

Six item Poppy doesn't duel, she destroys.

KING ATTILA2 votes

Tryndamere Nasus

draig0n1 votes

vs trynda blue ezreal or tristana and he is useless and vs nasus just take vayne and you demolish him

Leti the Yeti2 votes

Trundle ? he pretty much has every form of stat theft and stat steroid in the game if ur strong, hes gonna end up stronger :l

Captain Aishi1 votes

gets murdered by vayne though :(

Friendly Ram1 votes

Everything gets murdered by vayne.

Captain Aishi1 votes

holy necro

SpecterVonBaren2 votes

Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne Vayne

God I hate that champion.

Akali is SO HOT2 votes

Jax

Renaille1 votes

Depends on what point of the game

Early:Trundle Darius Shyvana XinZhao Olaf ect

Late:Trundle Tryndamere Vayne Zed Jax Shyvana ect

Darkslayer851 votes

Kindred late

LadyRenly1 votes

I love trynd because he doesn't care how fed you are. like we had a 35 kill corki and no one could oppose him, but i just engaged when i had ult and smashed his dumb plane

DeathBurst2 votes

Only works against squishies that don't build defenses. Try against a Juggernaut with 35 kills, it'll probably be another story.

LadyRenly1 votes

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Only works against squishies that don't build defenses. Try against a Juggernaut with 35 kills, it'll probably be another story.

Fair enough, yeah

nachocheeseeeee1 votes

I would say normally it is this for melee champs if it is 1v1 fighting like a man without kiting:

Tier 1: Nasus Jax Tryndamere Fiora MasterYi (normally they fuck most champions in 1v1 duels if no running away and coming back is allowed) Tier 2: Olaf Trundle Warwick Shyvana DrMundo Volibear Udyr Aatrox XinZhao Irelia Darius Garen Illaoi (the three juggernauts could be tier 1 depending on how well they use their ult) Tier 3: Yasuo Riven Gangplank (they could actually be higher if they are allowed to kite. Highly dependent on the player's skill and build, I saw a Riven destroy a Tryndamere at 1v1)

But in most cases Jax wins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0lvVqxKCAc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUCmfpFHg4Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2ELvM1CTzk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mtZ2OOU15I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOLfpK_ENZk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7-G6uG_wfo

paperbIade1 votes

master yi tier 1 why?

nachocheeseeeee1 votes

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master yi tier 1 why?

A fully built Yi tends to out dps almost any melee champion, and is extremely hard to itemize against due to his true damage. He has the option to avoid hard CC or burst with alpha strike and a second CC using QSS. Add that with crit built into his build and other forms of on hit effects, he will normally win. Meditate also for tanking while being on cd or mitigating damage he is best not to trade, for example during Jax's counter strike.

nachocheeseeeee1 votes

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC%%%VahQbo

? I can't see what you posted. Video don't exist.

paperbIade1 votes

it was a video of a full bulid udyr beating a master yi full bulid

Rívèñ 1 votes

Master Yi full build outdamages pretty much everyone and eventually beats any tank or semi tank with ease that includes Udyr (remember we're talking 1 on 1 late game), I feel like Xin is the biggest threat to Yi, Yi can even dodge Jax's e if timed right, outscales Lee in every possible way, but Xin's just nasty man he can interrupt your W , can tank while dealing enough damage in return although Yi should be able to kill him if he's more fed than him. Maybe Trynda can kill him if Yi doesn't screw up his W and baits Trynda? That's why he listed Trynda in tier one also. I personally think Aatrox could be a viable tier 1. He's a beast late game.
And Godyr's looking great this patch. He's back.

Arcus Diabolus1 votes

I would like to say Riven, but it largely depends on who's playing her.

I'm also confused about why people are occasionally picking assassins. They assassinate, but they don't really do well if they have to fight another 1v1 right afterword, and another and another, which I feel should be the most important factor to a duelist. To be able to win not just one 1v1 when you are at your best, but a few of them consecutively even if you arn't as hot as you were.

Sanctimonious1 votes

Probably Kayle tbh. She can build anything, and can fight the majority of champions in this game. Fiora Shits on her though before she has items.

Raptor Adaptor1 votes

Shen annnnnd Skarner

Kazutiro1 votes

XinZhao or MasterYi

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