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When did you last see a Graves or Quinn in bot lane??
Vayne and Draven are feast or famine. (Until late game)
BUT BOTH function better than Kindred. So we are back to the same point...
Last time I've seen them? Not to long ago but not often either, if you're in the mood to play quinn or graves botlane nobody is going to shittalk your lockin and its still possible to win the lane naturally. I would much rather see a quinn adc on my team than in the current patch a kalista adc.
They're not played over other things bot but they're not unplayable either, there are graves and quinns that still can climb ratings bot lane, but good luck climbing as adc kindred. She's built as a marksmen but she can't be a marksmen, thats the main problem with what they did with her. Yes they designed her to be a jungle marksmen, but a marksmen is a marksmen, you should still be able to auto in laning phase and succeed with support peel but kindred doesn't seem to succeed at all.
Feast and famine are pretty much every early and mid game adc until they're full build and either scaled hard or fell off (which is draven).