@Riot League is going nowhere fast, wake up. Runes/Masteries

KidagakashNedakh·Nov 14, 2014·2 votes·902 views

I'd prefer feedback, I'm curious to know what people think.

Watching WOW videos on Youtube a minute ago kind of revamped my feelings toward this.

League has always been very lackluster to me as far as runes/masteries are concerned. I've never felt very thrilled to fill them out because they seem to lie incredibly similar across a wide spectrum of characters, and generally they don't make you feel very unique. It could be to try and keep things balanced; however, I don't find Gnar compared to most older champions... balanced.

I understand League is nothing like wow in more ways than one, but my point is: I would still love to see Riot pull together a more unique system of allowing the players to really gain that sense of potential legendary-prowess when it comes to originating your style of game play. Not just AD/AP.

Top of the head thoughts would be to create character specific gear. It would add a huge window of creativity for the players, and it would allow Riot to focus on adding depth to the overall game, rather than repeating skills amongst new characters.

6 Comments

ValyrianBladeNov 14, 20141 votes

Honestly I love the runes and masteries. Right after joining when I leveled to 2 and was told I unlocked a rune slot and mastery point, I went to check it out and read through masteries and tried to find what I liked best.

I wish they'd get rid of t1 and t2 runes, those are just a waste of ip and it's unfair to people who don't know, but otherwise I like the system.

I have multiple mastery pages for the same champion in some cases. You can customize them during the Draft to counter your Lane opponent or go with or against a team comp. They feel like good rewards for leveling up. They also create meaningful goals while leveling rather than it just being "get to 30".

I don't know if I'd have stuck around if not for them tbh. I like this game a lot and hence probably would have, but having the goal of getting to 20 for t3 runes was a lot easier to accomplish than getting to 30 for ranked, which meant I was able to be excited about something in the game I otherwise wouldn't have been able to be excited about. Unlocking a new row of masteries had the same effect.

In general I like it and think it works. My only problems as a new player are IP costs. For the most part all of the best champions are 6300ip. I get it, no one would want a new champion if it wasn't stronger than the old ones, but with so many champions now and the cheapest ones mostly being outclassed, it feels like you need to put in so much work just to get something you can compete with. The free rotation helped, but some weeks nothing good would be available and those times were frustrating. Add in the 20k + ip that was needed for runes, the fact that rune pages are like 7000 almost which means I'm giving up a good champion to get an extra page (so I still only have 2), etc... I think champions just need to be discounted faster. New players have fun trying new champions, and they simply can't afford them. I've played since April, am level 29, and still only have a little over 20 champions, most of which are 450ip and next most 1350.I have two 6300s and two 4800s and 0 3150s I think (excluding free tristana, garen, and alistar from social media). New champions can and should be costly, but they need to be discounted faster so new players don't look and think they'll never have enough to buy all the champs they'd like to try, let alone all of the champs in the game.

KidagakashNedakhNov 14, 20141 votes

You can just buy the expensive champs (I never did, so i understand what it feels like to finally unlock the shit you worked so tediously for). When you have played for so long... being level 30 and having 12+ rune pages and masteries doesn't cut it. I got excited once too about unlocking stuff...

I don't necessarily disagree with you, I'm just saying, my last posts were about adding what is now the alters in the twisted treeline map, and several on how far Ashe has dropped off (which plenty of people are now realizing after so long---the imbalances are strong). I just might have some decent ideas after all. When you finally realize an icon update isn't enough to keep you playing... then you'll agree.

Speaking of which... how shitty riot is with keeping the public entertained; remember the freiljord shit on either choosing a bow, axe, or sword or w/e for an icon... that was the worst attempt at distracting players from seeing riot has nothing remotely healthy and original to offer. They have been treading waters for a while now, and are barely scrapping by.

and are you really fighting against the idea of having specialization and the potential to customize your in game experience to how you, yourself play... I'm sure the way you play shaco is not the way I play him.

I'm just being stern, and I'd like to say better things about what you suggested, but it's kind of irrelevant... you haven't even hit 30. Unless you have other accounts, which is something you do once you've been at lvl 30 for so long, and even then you should be able to recognize the struggle.

I'm throwing this out there so it's easier to understand... I've been to platinum and it's cool to reach a new tier and all, but I can't get excited over it knowing there is still nothing to add diversity. What good does a border do when you still encounter feeders, AFK'S etc... at least give me the chance to show how my customization choices can lead to comebacks and separate myself from such mularki. Not just turtle, farm, drag/baron every time...which if you think about it, are hardly objectives to most players... it's still a slaughter to the end in most cases. I want to have fun while playing and be better than most, it would be ridiculous to play and not want to at the very least show an act of skill.

Anyways, thank you for the feed back.

ValyrianBladeNov 14, 20142 votes

My apologies for the misunderstanding, I only meant that I like runes and masteries as they are because they're good for developing new players. I also commented on ip costs because they inhibit new players.

By no means do I think riot shouldn't work to add things in game to make it More interesting. More customisable stuff could be a lot of fun!

I've just seen a lot of posts saying to get rid of runes and masteries and I really think they have their place in this game.

KidagakashNedakhNov 14, 20141 votes

I agree, thanks for the reply! It's much appreciated.

Sassy BardistaNov 14, 20142 votes

JUST THROWIN IT OUT THERE as a sort of wow player and league player: wow didn't release new content for what, 14 months? They lost millions of players because of that. Riot on the other hand, has the biggest player base of any video game. ever. And they are constantly growing. Anyways past that point, I can feel ya for the wanting newer stuff instead of just runes/masteries. I love runes because I like to screw around with theory-crafting and such, trying new builds and testing them. But even so, it's not like they provide massive changes. I think anything of the likes you're talking about just couldn't fit into league. Have you read the item changes for preseason? I think it's a step in the direction you speak of; making it more fun and not the same game, every game. Idk. Just my thoughts!

KidagakashNedakhNov 14, 20141 votes

Thanks for the reply!

I haven't yet, but I will now that you mention it :)