Camille and auto fill completely ruin the game for solo players

Not your squire··10 votes·1,025 views

So Ive been playing for 4 years now and I always enjoyed ranked. Since my friends who play are all literally in bronze and just like goofin around in norms, I would mostly solo queue. Being a solo queue player last season had a lot of stigma behind it but I still feel like I got a lot out of it. I solod my diamond promos 3 times last season and sadly failed but i still felt like I was getting better after every game win or lose, I even made a few friends who enjoyed taking the games seriously too. This patch I cant even attempt to take the game seriously now as a solo player. Every game it start out with whoever is support crying because they got autofilld. They wont know how to or want to play support like riot expects them to, so they either troll from the start or start getting sappy once something goes wrong, completely destroying any chances of the team being able to reasonably communicate after that. I have had several afks from this in my 30 or so games Ive played this season directly because of auto fill. They will never just dodge because they assume theyll get filld again so it just ends up in people not taking the game seriously.

On camille, how is that ult fair at all? in any way? Duos grab that champion and essentially get free kills and all I can do is just sit there like an idiot and say oh at least there was nothing I could do at all. Tell me as a solo player how i'm supposed to have any counter play to that ultimate at all. I wont get into how a base 90% slow, a stun, and all the bonus dmg possible ensure im dead unless anyone wants to chat about it. That more or less sums it up for me. let me know your thoughts.

22 Comments

MatthewRT25 votes

knock her out of it

Not your squire1 votes

Very few champions do that reliably. The two best examples being Poppy Gnar . I feel like those are the only two champions I'd really see top. It seems like this champions ult kinda broke 2v1's too far because its not like everyone's just going to play those two and you don't get to counter every game.

Çhåryzård4 votes

How to counter her ult --> literally just remove her from it

Alistar Gnar Hecarim Janna Jayce Poppy Singed Skarner TahmKench Thresh Urgot Volibear XinZhao Zac Tristana Vayne

Can all do it some way, that's probably not even everyone. You can even CC her until it wears off.

Maybe if you're having so much trouble fighting her, stop banning her so y'all complaining can actually learn how to fight her

Not your squire2 votes

Well the ideal unbalanced scenario I imagine is me getting ganked. So ccing her for 4 seconds is not only unreliable(who besides sion can do this?) but even then whatever jg is ganking me may just have their way with me over that 4 seconds. I cant just main those 16 champs nor do i always get to counter pick so I cant see that as an option to balance camille overall. besides only 4 of those champs would even make decent top laners. That lane is where I imagine camille will do most of her gang banging.

Spoofghoul1 votes

well then you might need to learn a champion who can deal with camille or the ganks

it's not like there arent any

perhaps it's an idea to pick poppy if she isnt banned you can just hammer them away and have an anti gapclose tool and some cc

Not your squire1 votes

Well thats the thing. I've always been a OTP so I've always been dedicated to a small champion pool of champions I'm passionate about, sort of like league itself. If I don't play Gnar or Poppy every game now i'm just done for. Camille will ult me either the top laner or jg will kill me and they should spam that and I'm done for. So what's happening now is that if i don't conform and play the new op shit I'm opening myself up to Camille which feelsbadman. You can argue that this is already happened and I should've already conformed but I'd argue that this is too big of a power creep (maybe its a power scoot?) and its the nail in the coffin for my games(RIP) most likely. Do you play solo q? I often feel I have to carry.

Spoofghoul1 votes

anything with plenty of hp/armor and a knockback of sorts is fantastic against her

Though i don't know what you play but there are a lot of champions who can deal with her

the hing is camille's early game is a tad too strong right now besides that shes not so bad

But if you don't play anyhing who can't deal with her and possible lvl 6 ganks with her ult then perhaps invest in a sightstone? I mean if you are not going to win your lane at least try not to lose too hard and make sure you can make up for it with utility or something

Not your squire1 votes

Ok there are two champions who are viable top that I can think of with the reliable ability to disengage that Poppy Gnar. So I'm being forced into being a meta slave. If I buy sight stone I'm losing stats I have to back to keep up the wards, theres not even a guarantee that those wards wont be cleared or avoided by a competent jg. I usually have to carry and thats not going to work out at all if I have to give up all that just because camille has that ult.

Spoofghoul1 votes

why is everyone downvoting you?

anyway, the sightstone is more for if you cannot win anyway since vision is overpowered

so far ive found that most champions who cant kite or disengage her ult can straight up duel her and the rest can kite/disengage, with a few exceptions

and you don't have to pick poppy or gnar, malphite does fine and so does alistar both perfectly viable toplaners Alistar is probably the biggest cockblocker to camille ever

And no you do not always have to carry that's bullshit sometimes you just got to adapt man. And this does not mean you have to conform to the meta

VoraciousX2 votes

I don't think Camille is broken but it is pretty annoying on some occasions like this one game where there was a double jungle on the enemy team, Camille and a Bard, they 2 man ganked me like when I was level 2. The Camille was basically a support, ulting solo lanes so the laners could get kills. It was pretty annoying. Dealing with 3 people at one time with one with an ult that prevents your escape is annoying to deal with really.

Not your squire1 votes

I feel you. I do think the rest of her kit is good and versatile and that may possibly shine thru to be broken some games. But my real problem is that her ult makes it so easy to solo me out in that lvl 6 laning phase.

VoraciousX1 votes

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I feel you. I do think the rest of her kit is good and versatile and that may possibly shine thru to be broken some games. But my real problem is that her ult makes it so easy to solo me out in that lvl 6 laning phase.

In that case you should pick a champ that would say "I'm not stuck in here with you, you're stuck in here with me" when they ult you. Katarina for example could get a free ult off her, Poppy could push her out, Jayce could as well. Shen is that kinda guy who you don't want an extended fight with cuz of his Q so he could possibly be good against her, plus he builds more AD and his Q deals magic damage so the shield probly wouldn't work against it. Teemo can blind her and iirc her Q is an enhanced auto.

Not your squire1 votes

Well I think if I'm being forced on Gnar and Poppy that's problem. Jayce would require a lot of maneuvering you'd most likely get 90% slowed and die, other champions with knock backs aren't viable top laners and even then you dont get to counterpick everygame so your leaving yourself open to that every game potentially. It seems like the power creep for 2v1ing is going too far with this ult in my opinion.

Jorencice1 votes

A decent jayce would destroy a camile.

His range and damage is simply to much.

Luckily many people dont play jayce because if i had to vote about any champ being hidden OP it would be jayce.

I mean you could just play someone who can flat out duel camile.

If shes dead she cant CC you

VoraciousX1 votes

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A decent jayce would destroy a camile.

His range and damage is simply to much.

Luckily many people dont play jayce because if i had to vote about any champ being hidden OP it would be jayce.

I mean you could just play someone who can flat out duel camile.

If shes dead she cant CC you

I don't think he's "hidden" OP. He was strong even before he got buffs, no one just complained about him because he wasn't played that much. I think they just buffed him because they wanted to see him more tbh.

And yeah, you're not forced to be a meta slave. Camille has damage, yeah, but you can just fight her with a lot of champions, and honestly Kat top is rarely a BAD pick since they most of the time think you're going mid. Certain champions can destroy her, but she can destroy a lot as well, and I haven't played it yet but I'm assuming the Camille matchup would be heavily in her favor due to being able to E away from her hookshots and when Camille ults you could ult, forcing her to either try to fight you(in which you could probably win if she's already had her shield up), or run away, in which you can chase her down. Kennen could probably shit on her too. If she ults you, he could probably also use his ult to at least stun her for the duration of her ult if he's worried about dying. Likely could destroy her in lane though as well.

Not your squire1 votes

I think your missing my point here. Camilles 2v1 is too strong, When she gets a camp for her or is the jungler its just too much to deal with for the vast majority of champions. You are not going to out-duel her in a 2v1 reliably and picking squishy champs will probably just make it worse.

Sanctimonious2 votes

I hit D5 last season and quit because of autofill. Now it's in every bracket. Rito pls :/

MissingKayo1 votes

Oh boy, another Camile QQ post.

Learn to play against her and then you might retract your statements, eh?

Not your squire1 votes

Explain to me where I'm wrong. I didn't say anything about her laning phase or 1v1's. 2v1's are already hard enough as it is, not that they shouldn't be, but whats fair about me being trapped for four seconds ideally in a 2v1 top lane. seriously putting aside that that situation will happen elsewhere all the time and she has plenty more utility with going untargetable and potentially insecting enemies. The 2v1 top lane situation should almost certainly happen in every game with a Camille in it. Say I'm being ulted by Camille, it'd be awful bad of her to miss her 90% slow. The only way I can get free is to knock her out the only champions that can do that off the top of my head are Alistar Azir Gnar Gragas LeeSin Poppy Singed XinZhao Janna Jayce that's not a lot and don't lie you aren't going to see half of those top lane. You will not be counter picking half the time. So top lane just feels like shit creek right now.

Irelia Bot1 votes

Camille is healthy compared to the likes of Illaio and Lane pressure Nasus

Maximum Morde1 votes

What was this wall of text? Didn't read.

Not your squire1 votes

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