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Now That Illaoi is Informally in Solo Q God Tier...

Jackalrat·12/18/2017, 1:36:01 PM·3 votes·1,971 views

http://www.nerfplz.com/2017/12/2017-best-champions-tier-list-solo.html

Can we please discuss this immensely obnoxious champion? I back and forth between a good set of vastly distinct top laners: Nasus, Vlad, Garen, Gnar, Darius, Jayce, Maokai, and Renekton...

This is a wide range of counters and strategies but I universally find Illaoi is always my toughest opponent. I know /how/ to fight her, and I'm not saying I never beat Illaois...but for her to be consistently such a strong pick, I feel like she's overtuned. Her weaknesses are basically non-existent in laning phase, and she remains relevant for nearly all stages of the game.

While she is kiteable, on lane phase she will win any all in but then likewise harass you tremendously. Also, the number of tentacles she can spawn can often feel dramatically excessive. Like you'll kill 3 back-to-back, shoved under your own tower, and more will start loading in. All the while she's just focused on farming while her randomly positioned AI puts you in bullet hell, knowing that if you come close she can smack you like she were a farmed Nasus even though it's early game.

Additionally, her ult is some of the most disproportionately massive burst to be on a high survivability hero. It easily rivals most of the execute ultimates without the requirement your opponent already be particularly low.

I don't expect everyone to agree, this is just my two cents. However, seeing her take Shen's place in nerfplz's Solo Q God Tier convinced me I'm not the only one who feels she might be a bit too strong.

15 Comments

Jorencice12/18/2017, 3:32:49 PM3 votes

Cant you dodge her entire ults damage though?

I am Pacman12/18/2017, 7:12:25 PM3 votes

Lol she is not overturned at all. She just pubstomps low Elo because if the way she is designed.

Low Elo is full of morons who constantly engage and don't understand her kit or how to eat it.

The gist of it is mostly mind games around dodging her e and then punishing her for it.

Low Elo can't even understand the base game let alone mind games around baiting skillshots.

Of the champions you mentioned Vlad and Jayce would be best. Both can easily poke her without needing to risk getting hit by e.

Gnar is also great especially in mini with his slow. As soon as she misses e just start pounding her face in with q and slows.

If the melees nasus and garden would be best. Nasus can sit back and farm her tentacles and garen should always be tanky/fast enough to never be in range of her to die.

Again illaoi CAN beat all of these matchups if they walk in straight lines to farm or towards her to harass because all she wants to do is hit e.

Another tip: if you are under tower and you got hit with e and are now spawning tentacles just stick one on the tower and DON'T KILL IT. Just sit near it (don't go near the other wall furthest from the tower) dodge the initial slam and just wait for the test to end THEN kill it. It won't spawn more if you are close enough to a tentacle already.

The tentacles aren't random, they spawn on the closest wall. You can influence this and so can she.

Rayjay Redfang12/18/2017, 5:09:03 PM2 votes

Other toplaners are weak now because of the runes. Things will even out once other toplaners have a better rune set. Illaoi is a lane bully and a sub par splitpusher. She is a pain to deal with, but a lot of champions are. I'd rather lane against illaoi than ornn.

TheThundersRoar12/25/2017, 10:44:49 AM1 votes

As a jungler, I dread going up against Illaoi. I can't think of any other champion that can consistently 1v2 the enemy top and jungler even when not fed. It's even worse if she's fed, because my laner will be begging for ganks that I can't give because it's just a free double kill.

Ashe mage AD12/18/2017, 3:24:25 PM1 votes

I only ever play these 2 pocket picks vs her, one is Shyvana where I play reactionary and she can hardly do sh!t (her Q counters the tentacles, her W counters the sould reap, ult counters ult if used right, E is a good farming tool so you don't have to risk your neck for each minion). The other is a tank Akali with an item set specifically tailored for the match up that hardly fails unless I get cheesed early cuz of whatever circumstances, the laning is admittedly a bit rougher compared with Shyv's but since I have 200k mastery on Akali I'll manage any day.

Vargrjalmer7/16/2018, 3:59:56 AM1 votes

I dont usually lose lanes to an illaoi, to beat her you just have to out push her, Renekton eats her alive as soon as she misses her e, just skip a few autos, do your slice in, auto w q and dice out. any longer than that and you risk getting instantly blown up by her ult. after getting a kill on her (very early before her scaling becomes retarded) you roam and gank for your team, then recall and tp back to lane. rinse and repeat.

in theory

however, one game i remember very clearly i was an 8/4/8 renekton or something, and this little 4/4 illaoi runs over, presses e, and as im pushed up pretty far i immediately retreat ( she was under tower and healthy) I IMMEDIATELY lost 80% of my hp to her e alone.... this is simply incorrect, that kind of damage should be reserved for ultimates that take time to set up, the fact that she is hitting a stationary, pacifistic representation of me and almost killing me is absolutely bonkers. it shouldnt be able to take more than 20% of your hp on its own, considering how hard it already is to deal with getting pulled in lane phase. personally i play a high mobility bruiser, and the second she e's me i all in her (with illaoi between you and the soul so she isnt dealing double damage) enough damage dealt to her seems to cancel her e, or maybe its the fact that i go in and stun her.

my 2 cents, she's far over tuned in terms of the damage she deals in proportion to the amount of effort and THOUGHT it takes to dish out said damage, compare to syndra, who takes a crazy amount of setup to 100-0 all in someone, but as a price, is a naturally squishy target. i could provide a dozen more examples but this paragraph is a lot longer than I originally anticipated, so ill cut it short. Cheers

xGunna112/18/2017, 6:26:58 PM1 votes

she is op champ

Jackalrat12/21/2017, 6:03:04 AM1 votes

Have to disagree with any notion of her not being overtuned atm. Chances are, all the God tier champs are overtuned slightly, but she is just an impossibly frustrating champ to go against. I don't feel like she has any real counters at all. And dear God the number of tentacles she spawns can get really stupid really fast.