Shaco Boxes and TLD/DFT

Fghtr14·3/7/2016, 10:05:01 PM·24 votes·3,390 views

As a disclaimer, I could be stupid and I could have read over something talking about this already, but I'm curious.

Shaco's boxes don't count towards Thunderlord's Decree even though 1) it's a damaging spell, and 2) it doesn't count as three instances of damage, like Morgana's W does.

On the same token, Deathfire Touch doesn't proc at all, even though Shaco's boxes count as a damaging ability. Whether or not the attacks would count as a DoT or a single target ability would be up for dispute, but I feel like they should be affected by those two in some way.

Again, I could have missed something about this ability in particular, I just found it curious how neither keystone would work with it.

22 Comments

Cenobite Azaziel3/7/2016, 10:35:23 PM10 votes

It is the same "excuse" they give to yorick ghouls. Shaco summons a different entity into the game that doesn't have thunder lords. That's why it doesn't proc thunder lord. It is hilarious that if a box kills someone, you get the frag and the gold. In the death recap the box and ghouls ARE listed as shaco/yorick damage source. So yeah. No logic at all, simply is "Nope. It doesn't proc." Not sure why teemo shrooms aren't in the same spot.

GrReaper963/8/2016, 4:21:49 AM4 votes

Also doesn't proc item 3092

EcchiOtakuTM3/8/2016, 3:34:31 AM3 votes

Zyra's plants apply them, riot really needs to let shaco's boxes apply them.....

ShadowParker3/8/2016, 2:26:32 AM1 votes

I never knew this interaction existed. Wierd how that works.

Zyra's plants proc dft. Interesting.

Masala Chai3/8/2016, 1:53:36 AM1 votes

AP Shaco is pretty annoying, I was half healthed by Two Shiv Poison, and I keep on hearing how much of a pain it is to lane as lane bullies against him. Still balanced because 1. It's cheese, and 2. A lot of other abilities can half health.

Shac Norris3/8/2016, 5:23:07 PM1 votes

You shouldn't bother, RIOT doesn't give a shit about Shaco, they've proven me right on that point many times. They never answer Shaco bug-related posts, even those who are game breaking or those he'd have for years.

Cenobite Azaziel3/8/2016, 8:27:12 PM1 votes

Riot has double standards. This game needs no logic or pattern to exist.

Braum : Geez, I can't hop to wards because my displacement ult would be broken... LeeSin : "Whut?"