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Calling out to all Zyra Mains!! About that Zyra/Mage rework Riot is thinking about.

Hikaru707·1/25/2016, 9:46:12 AM·5 votes·3,659 views

Let me hear all of you mains thoughts as well and lets get them out there in hopes things go well so our lovely plant woman and give Riot an insight as to what we love about her so much!! I'm honestly scared... Zyra is my main and if they make some major changes to her I'd have to 1. learn her again and, 2. what if I no longer love her :/ I just hope they can keep what us few Zyra players like about her. Having the ability to summon plants and having them bring the utility of even blocking things like a blitz pull or thresh hook in the bot lane. I've caught so many blitz in the bot lane off guard because of that however I have been wanting Zyra to get at least a buff of some kind because when I pick her for the mid ane I'm not respected by my teams mates until the games goes on and if the game is a bad one then well I get blamed for the lost... :/ Anyway guess I'm both excited and nervous... but mostly nervous because of what they did to champions like Fiora and Poppy recently. They go a bit overboard and redo the entire feel of the champions and well Zyra is my main because I like the feel to her already :( sigh Riot I leave my love for your game in your hands. Please don't let me down and bring Zyra back to life <3

17 Comments

5050BS1/25/2016, 11:51:33 AM5 votes

Zyra is my main mid and support and sometimes jungle can even top with her

ONLY things she needs

-Plant AI fixed (you had them fixed for a short time on the PBE then removed it)

-Passive reworked (maybe something with the jungle?)

-E speed made bit faster (SOOO much mobility today harder and harder to get off a root)

-E duration is too low at low ranks (.75s is her animation duration so she cant do anything with it. 1.75 is HALF that of other roots

-Ulted Plants made untargetable for their duration (like Illaoi's Tentacles)

-Ult expand speed doubled (too many can just walk out of it before the damage let alone dashes/jumps)

Thats it

Lysdexic11/27/2016, 4:48:01 AM1 votes

I have an idea for the passive: Underbrush Zyra causes plants in a large area around her to grow with increased speed. Enemies in this area are slowed for 3% movement speed and Enemies in brush are slowed by 5%. Is not activated in the river.

Zyra's main problem is her lack of mobility, but it is intentional by Riot. This, I feel will give her at least a bit more room to kite an enemy out and will actually give her a unique niche to fill; CC siege control support/mid

Thorns Rising1/28/2016, 9:20:53 PM1 votes

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thumbnail93/22/2016, 4:28:14 PM1 votes

They'll prolly just throw all her damage onto her plants or something stupid.

Then we'll end up with a reverse mage Illoai.

SolidariGee3/29/2016, 10:50:22 PM1 votes

To me the essential attribute of playing Zyra is 'laying a trap' - when enemies don't know what you're planning you're very deadly. Obviously, thematically, her quality is "plants" - so we should find a way to combine this unique play style with unique concept.

My thoughts:

Passive - this needs a rework, obviously. I suggest that every X seconds zyra plants a seed in a nearby bush if she has not planted a seed in the last Y seconds. If she has a seed planted, her passive 'enriches' nearby seeds increasing their longevity once they bloom (instead of 3 hits it would take 4 or 5 to kill them).

Q - this is boring. I suggest it gets a dot component and lower its upfront damage (the concept behind this is that the target is 'infected' with a parasitic plant seed'. This would allow players to choose between burst and attrition (deathfire touch or thunderlord's). The thornspitters would also have a dot component to their damage that increases with ranks in Q.

W - seed - can leave unchanged, given the passive mechanic also affects how this works. Perhaps it could start with 1 seed max and end with 3 (1/1/2/2/3) seeds max. This seems to cripple her early, but if she's smart she can use the seeds from her passive.

E - I would be ok with this dealing no damage but rooting longer. Her PLANTS are the damage dealers. Her abilities should help them do that. The vine lasher's range or their slow should increase slightly for each rank in E.

R - I actually like this. Perhaps it can have different interactions for thornspitters and vine lashers though. It could also make the plants untargetable.

DECISIONS: I think it's important to make meaningful decisions. Zyra could maximize her DoT damage by maxing Q (likely taking deathfire touch) or she could max w first to have more plants or she could go E first for a longer snare duration.

So if a zyra maxes w first she'll have more options, but her plants will not have as much DoT damage or as much slowing potential.

If she maxes Q first, she will not be able to store as many seeds, but the DoT they apply will be potent and deadly.

If she maxes E first, she will have a lot of utility both in the duration of the snare and in how effective her (fewer) plants slow her enemies.

Rengar Greyback4/8/2016, 12:17:10 AM1 votes

she needs mobility more than anything, and the speed of her ult and E needs increased. let her passive give her mobility. if she right clicks a plant or seed, let her pull herself there with a vine. i think this would help her out a great deal. and up her movement speed. her damage is fine, it's her lack of mobility and how slow her E and ult are that hurt her most. there's been so many times i've been mid and been ganked and like well i'm dead, i'm barely out of turret but i still can't get away.

Plumage Rebel4/19/2016, 6:16:24 PM1 votes

DON'T rework my zyra plz i love her she was the first champ i learned to play well so im begging u, riot Don't rework her!

deathemployee5/1/2016, 4:28:22 PM1 votes

they actualy make her alot better because most of the times its hard to hit your passive and its anoying to wait all the time for plants because they are your main daage so they made her ton times better

27656918_DEL5/2/2016, 12:35:09 PM1 votes

Basically how dare they. You don't enhance chess by screwing up all the pieces and not only adding new ones changing perfectly fine old ones..

Zyra is fine. Every time I love champion they completely change it. I've paid good money to support this game and in return they take the piss.

Poppy, Taric, Fiora, Sejuani, Tristana etc, all champs I had all the skins on and mained at some point. Now Zyra. Thanks for adding another champion to my bin pile of "New champions with the exact same name as an old champion".

Honestly just make a new champion and keep the old one as it is. Don't try to call a spade a flank of lamb.