If ADCs are so overpowered

PringleBerry·Jun 23, 2017·8 votes·1,091 views

Why are the large majority of them only played in bot, with a few exceptions and odd picks like twitch jg?

EDIT: If shields and healing are making ADCs too strong, why nerf the ADC and not the shielding/healing?

27 Comments

AhristocatsJun 23, 20176 votes

guys, fiora is not broken

she is only played top

EKSDE

MarshbouyJun 23, 20172 votes

This analogy doesn't work because fiora isn't an entire class of champions. ADCs are. If a team would be stronger with more than one ADC, why not have more than one ADC?

Big LincolnJun 23, 20171 votes

it's easier to protect one ADC than it is to protect 2 or 3

it's easier to organize for teamfighting, too

MarshbouyJun 23, 20171 votes

that would work, except for that one time when ADCs were actually really busted and there were more than one on a team fairly regularly HELLO PRESEASON 6

AhristocatsJun 23, 20176 votes

doesn't matter if it's an entire class or some champs, the result is the same

they won't plague other roles, you think that if the skirmisher class got buffed you will see one mid and one top, and one in the jungle? no, because most of them cannot be played mid since they need to roam and apply pressure on the map, they also can't jungle because their ganking potential sucks

the adc role is overpowered atm, and that's partially due to items

MarshbouyJun 23, 20171 votes

That argument doesn't work either. When ADCs were reworked in preseason 6 they were being played everywhere, top, mid, jungle, and of course, bot (not counting MF support because FFS people that was a counterpick not a fucking meta pick).

hhaavviikkJun 23, 20171 votes

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doesn't matter if it's an entire class or some champs, the result is the same

they won't plague other roles, you think that if the skirmisher class got buffed you will see one mid and one top, and one in the jungle? no, because most of them cannot be played mid since they need to roam and apply pressure on the map, they also can't jungle because their ganking potential sucks

the adc role is overpowered atm, and that's partially due to items

reminds me when ADC's got reworked and it was ADC mania, top, mid, bottom even jungle, you name a lane ADC's will be there

MarshbouyJun 23, 20174 votes

Because the biggest reason why ADCs are so powerful right now is the support behind them. item 3109 item 3107 item 3504 item 3190 give ADCs tons of healing, shields, damage reduction, and buffs overall.

PringleBerryJun 23, 20171 votes

So wouldn't that mean its really supports that are OP and not ADCs? I gotta say, seeing maybe 3 posts on the front page about how ADCs are op really ticks me off.

MarshbouyJun 23, 20172 votes

Well pretty much.

KloqdqJun 23, 20171 votes

It's because of those items that ADCs are strong. They hit like a truck and because of the items that keep them alive, they feel overbearing. You can only play 1 though. That way everything you have will be dumped on them. Like my adc will take a shield or heal from your support, locket shield, the redemption heal, have a knight's vow, plus be healed with the ardent. That's a lot for people to hit through when you don't include the other players on that team that can either do damage or pile cc and help kite.

It creates this painful mess for team to have to punch through. Ads are becoming the new raid boss with all these items created to keep them alive.

PringleBerryJun 23, 20171 votes

Alright if thats the case, nerf shielding power. If you nerf adcs, that means you make shield and healing supports weaker as well, nerfing two classes instead of one. Just fine tune shielding until you get a happy medium so both classes are viable.

KloqdqJun 23, 20171 votes

Really the solution is bring down the power of the survivability items. Ardent, Redemption, Knight's Vow, PD, Death's Dance, etc. An adc shouldn't be doing 1k damage AND tank more than a tank. The classes aren't a problem, it's the items.

RalanrJun 23, 20172 votes

Deaths Dance on some ADCs has a hand in this.

Critmaster GarenJun 23, 20172 votes

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Because the biggest reason why ADCs are so powerful right now is the support behind them. give ADCs tons of healing, shields, damage reduction, and buffs overall.

i mean, its also because they buffed the shit out of adc itemization, nerfed defensive itemization and gave them even more burst resistance like rework item 3026 and item 3812

there are many factors besides support items coming together.

MarshbouyJun 23, 20171 votes

Because the biggest reason

biggest, not the only. the buffs to AD items contributed a lot.

MalchiorrAug 30, 20171 votes

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Because the biggest reason why ADCs are so powerful right now is the support behind them. give ADCs tons of healing, shields, damage reduction, and buffs overall.

very fun meta for jg

MarshbouyJun 23, 20172 votes

I don't think OP is saying "ADCs are at a fine spot right now and probably could use buffs. I think OP is stating "if they can do what you claim they can do, why aren't they being played in other roles?"

zarxus1234Jun 23, 20171 votes

adc's are very weak right now. They literally have to go like 20-5 to be relevant. Its all about assassins and top lane right now.

MarshbouyJun 23, 20173 votes

Are you that guy who keeps making posts about how top lane controls the game.

I was right.

zarxus1234Jun 23, 20171 votes

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Are you that guy who keeps making posts about how top lane controls the game.

I was right.

At least im not a sheep whose on the adc hate bandwagon. Adc's do nothing in these games. Half of the games im in i can't even tell you who the adc's are because they don't do anything.

Big LincolnJun 23, 20171 votes

why would they give up the safety of a support

PringleBerryJun 23, 20172 votes

Cause apparently they are OP as shit draintanking entire teams, killing tanks in .2 seconds and rightclicking their way to elos. This aint really much of a post and more poking at the adc hate bandwagon.

Big LincolnJun 23, 20171 votes

they are, but ADCs are also a problem because league players got support items buffed 100 times over

AD items being buffed, DD being buffed and crit being cheaper is still dumb

PringleBerryJun 23, 20171 votes

I'll agree with the extra Ad buffs and DD, but I think it's about time crit got cheaper to compensate for the quicker nature of games nowadays.

MarshbouyJun 23, 20171 votes

downvoted but people actually claim this shit

PresidentPeeweeJun 23, 20171 votes

If u recall in the imt vs tsm series imt tried playing 3 adcs and guess how that turned out vs a maokai late? And also lucian quinn and graves have been played top and graves quinn twitch can jungle too.