U counter him with CC

greysand·5/9/2018, 2:04:07 PM·13 votes·5,833 views

that answer, that excuse that makes everything go better, sincerely, stop with that, always founding people that answers with that quote everytime that his assasin or bruiser otp is on the lock of some type of blame, sincerely, EVERYTHING dies if u focus him with 5 hard cc , even with morgana shield, usually the cc is going to break the shield, even with olaf ragnarok, olaf is going to die because if u focus him u need to be realy realy feed to sustain the damage, and that champs have 0 movility, (if u call the spd buff of olaf movility, sincerely dont understand why u read this) im playing in relatively low elo, im not the best player of the world, obviously, and im not even trying to be the best, i play this for fun, but i cant understand why champs that re solely counter by hard cc exist, because, as i say, everything is countered by that, yasuo, ekko, zed, yi, shaco,high movility, high damage they re suposed to die fast...if u manage to hit a cc on them, because everyone, and more that sincerely now i cant think of, have means to, or evade that cc, or manage to run away fast enought so that cc only manage to save the champ that they were focusing on, put as example ekko, enters to kill an adc, the sup, being...idk, leona? nautilus? manages to hit a stun on them, ekko gets hard damage for that fail...until he push r, full hp again, but the hard cc is in cd... understand my point? well, balancing that is riot isue, but as i see that lee is still being overused and does the same damage as always with half item, but elise got nerfed 1000 times for doing less damage, with less movility, just because she has a stun, that is 3 times harder to hit than lee q , or evelinn being nerfed, because a stealth at lvl 2 is too op for a jungler, but twitch and shaco have better stealths (shaco has a free flash and twitch gets a att spd buff) at the same level...and do the same or more damage...with no need to say, EY!! IM GANKING YOU, YOU SHOULD ESCAPE that is evelinn only stun...clearly balance this game is not riot priority, and its ok having in mind that is a way to make money in the end...but as a non competitive player, im sincerely sad of this way of doing things

24 Comments

FOR JUSTICE5/9/2018, 2:26:26 PM7 votes

you don't turn around and 5 cc one person. when people say "just cc them" when it comes to assasins they just mean keep ONE form of hard CC up, so when they go in you can stop it. also, summoner 3 is your best friend

shaco and twitch rely on cheese ganks, so usually the first lane they gank is the one theyre going to stick to the majority of the game. deepward to the point they would stealth OR ward the jungle camps to tell when they are going to gank.

AHeroNamedHawke5/9/2018, 6:48:18 PM5 votes

Mindless, incoherent ranting upvoted on the front page of gameplay because it implies you can't attack Yasuo, no surprise there

You CC champions because it prevents them from using their usual survival mechanics, and then due to having 1600 HP they die instantly. It's very simple

Votable Jester5/9/2018, 8:06:53 PM3 votes

You are allowed to use '.'s outside of "..."

Naymliss5/9/2018, 5:53:32 PM1 votes

What people mean to say instead of "just cc them" is "just stick in the middle of your team, maintain really solid vision, only fight when your ult and summoners are up, and then save your cc for them."

ValyrianBlade5/11/2018, 9:14:13 PM1 votes

I'm okay with the 'cc them' argument in some cases, but not in others.

Take Volibear. To me, saying he's weak to cc is reasonable. His MS steroid isn't too big, and righteous glory has a huge cooldown, so once you use ANY cc on his initial engage (even a slow), he shouldn't be able to get to your damage dealers, and thus gets shut down hard.

Now take Master Yi. His ultimate prevents slows from working, and he has an ability that lets him go untargetable. I don't like the argument there, because he can play around your cc AND you need multiple cc to deal with him. As OP stated, that cc would have been really useful against anyone, and needing to funnel it onto Yi is a big advantage for him. I'm not saying Yi is OP or even strong, just that "cc counters him" is a sorry excuse for an argument.

Likewise take fizz. It's great that I can lock him down with cc and kill him. It sucks that I have to wait for him to troll-pole first, and that even though I charm him immediately as he lands, my ADC dies at that moment too. Welp, I played perfectly, but since he lands his R my ADC is dead , so he did his job. Again, cc doesn't counter him because he has tools to avoid it and play around it.

The way I look at it is, these champions that cc counters, if you put them all together on the same team against a heavy cc team with just 1adc, would they win or lose? Most of the time they'd win, because most command multiple cc, which means your heavy cc team will run out of cc due to there being 5 such enemies, and whoever doesn't get cc'd will faceroll you.

However a team of Volibears and Tryndameres would absolutely lose in such a scenario.

JackMcSnipeyz5/11/2018, 9:21:42 PM1 votes

Just cc them doesnt work on everybody. If leona focuses her combo on some tank he's gonna shrug it off, leona wasted her skills. If leona even lands just ult on an adc/assassin/mage they are usually dead.

CC works on some more than others, if you have a on demend hard CC against katarina, you're gonna counter her, the same wont apply to others like GP, Olaf and most tanks.

So yea, "just CC them" is a legit arguement in the right context.

Akali is SO HOT5/11/2018, 9:25:11 PM1 votes

Different champions are more susceptible to CC than others. Using two stuns on an Assassin gets you a lot more mileage than using two stuns on a tank. If Talon runs into your team to kill your carry and Rammus taunts him, then he's dead. If Sejuani runs into your team and Rammus taunts her, then she just types "lul" in all chat.

"Just CC them" is a legitimate form of counterplay for a lot of champions and abilities. If you manage to pick a team comp with 0 CC and Yasuo steamrolls your team because you can't lock him down, then you deserved to lose the game. Don't understand how people have tried to dismiss this argument for so long.