Suggested Ashe E Change/Buff

TwerkinPuppies··89 votes·15,858 views

With stealth champs being so strong in this meta, I personally think having Ashe hawkshot reveal stealth champs would provide her a slight buff that would help her in lane and also in teamfights by having vision on stealth champs. To clarify more, hawkshot should be like sweeping lens. The positioning of the champ would be revealed as they move in the area hawkshot was casted

48 Comments

Ifneth44 votes

That would be great. How about it even makes a hawk cry if it finds a champion?

Lùmen6 votes

Even better

50000000000000002 votes

This is an amazing qol change

DidactHal1 votes

What about the other rarity skins for her, like PROJECT: Ashe?

Thefrostyviking4 votes

.....Alarm sound of some kind?

Sapphires2 votes

Maybe something like the Metal Gear Solid alert sound

DidactHal1 votes

Or it could use AVAROSA's voice in it (AVAROSA's voice is in PROJECT: Ashe's joke animation), saying something like "Stealthed enemy detected. Revealing."

Rıots Bad Client24 votes

Another thing I would like, if it did a Ping emote every enemy champion it seen.

Hextech OwI18 votes

Same for Quinn 's W

XxDRAGONsAK47xX4 votes

SO true.

Quinn needs that for how squishy she is :/

kargish13 votes

Lmao never, with her E interrupt she'd destroy stealth engagers Rengar Talon Akali Khazix

webstar11083 votes

Kha and Talon are Invis. Nothing sees them except for twrs

Andevar2 votes

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Lmao never, with her E interrupt she'd destroy stealth engagers Rengar Talon Akali Khazix

Exactly, these assassins wouldn't even be able to do their job because they rely on their invisibility in team fights to take down the ADC. It's making assassins even more irrelevant (At least Talon anyways).

Sp33d Zer03 votes

Stealth (camouflage) =/= invis.

Talon Khazix and Akali all has Invis.

Rengar, Eve, and Twitch all have camouflage.

Andevar1 votes

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Stealth (camouflage) =/= invis.

Talon Khazix and Akali all has Invis.

Rengar, Eve, and Twitch all have camouflage.

I thought the OP meant both forms.

Sp33d Zer01 votes

They could, but this is how I read it

Sulghunter2 votes

True, except for Akali, her three charges of her ult will let her stick to Quinn like white on rice, no matter what Quinn does.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

"Stealth engagers"

Mentions Akali, who very much does not engage from stealth, but rather uses her stealth in the middle of combat to reposition, dodge, and recover cooldowns.

The only time Akali uses her stealth to engage is when she's using it for the mini dash. Her stealth is too obvious to actually be used to engage. And it doesn't move at all.

kargish1 votes

You know the reason behind why I picked out Akali as well, she's reliant on her shroud to stay alive if she doesn't have it she'll blow up immediately. She might not engage from stealth, but Quinn being able to reveal stealth would destroy her just as much as the actual stealth engagers.

MrHaZeYo13 votes

That's actually a nice buff that wouldn't just break her.

BLIGHTBRINGER10 votes

That would be quite a decent change actually.

DerMangoJoghurt8 votes

Although it sounds nice, I think it will just widen the (already way too big) gap between pro and casual play for Ashe.

Glory to God3 votes

While also making many assassins even more competitively unrealistic

Thefrostyviking1 votes

Dont most sneaky assassins rely on invisibility rather than stealth(camouflage)?

Anti camo would hurt champs like twitch and rengar more than others i think.

Supreme Senpai691 votes

I think increasing the CD would be a pretty good compensation nerf. Cuz it affecting twitch and rengar honestly is kind of a big deal but only if you're facing them. And if you know Rengar is coming such that you E him it's usually already too late

Thefrostyviking1 votes

The CD is honestly already really high....or at least it feels high given its effect.

And i honestly think that the anti camo could make a difference, if you spot him you can stop him mid dash and maybe save yourself....or chase down a fleeing twitch, or even stop twitch from flanking you for a while.-

Its a pretty big deal.....but if yasuo can stop any projectile he wants on a 20 sec cooldown then i think its alright if Ashe has the chance to stop rengar every minute x)

saltran4 votes

Some love for my queen? Fine for me.

XxDRAGONsAK47xX4 votes

wait wtf.

That's actually genius.

BlakexEkalb4 votes

Or how about instead the entire usage of hawkshot revealing stealth, only the after-effect of the shot reveals stealth (the particles at the end of the shot that remain once the shot reached its destination).

JustaNewb2 votes

I'm sold, and it would give a solid counter pick to a few champs.

Killer of Night92 votes

This sound cool but i think has enough utility in her kit (slow+cc+vision). I wish that E has some form of passive like kalista W do.

Zed genius2 votes

I doubt it would bring her back, other ad carries overpower her in so many ways

Mandalorian 1172 votes

That’s actually a really cool idea that might not break the game in any major way. Maybe they can do that with quinn’s W too.

FilDaFunk2 votes

Yes, random buffing of champs is good.

Blåbæret2 votes

No ADC should be buffed until they're all nerfed to a fair level.

Arthur138s2 votes

Maybe an Ashe rework? or just give her buffs all around... she`s easily the most casual ADC out there currently

YuGiHo2 votes

this is nice, stealth champs would still destroy solo but gives her more team utility. Too bad riot balance team would never set foot in the gameplay section of boards to see this out of fear of dismemberment.

Daddy Ants2 votes

Camouflage champions like Twitch Rengar Evelynn sure.

True invisibility champions like Shaco Vayne MonkeyKingKhazix Kaisa Talon Akali definitely not.

The whole point of True Invisibility is exactly that. Only way to be revealed is True Sight or Towers.

webstar11081 votes

Or make her E similar to Quinn's vision and get it a passive. Ashe need a buff

notice me Sin pi1 votes

What I like the most about your suggestion is reducing skill gap between lower&higher elo; vision scales with elo, and giving it a use aside from vision definitely makes her more balanceable between low and high elo.

Dochasach1 votes

As someone that use to play Ashe a lot, I like this. I think it would definitely help her out. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

50Shades0fTrynda1 votes

Why would someone try to suggest something ... Riot are experts , thus they know how to do things properly and in the best way of current demand(s)

Gear5Luffy1 votes

it could be made as an aoe are only like swain W reveals and not everything on its way

ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

I actually think this is a neat buff because Ashe is one of the more immobile and prone to being jumped champions in the game. Giving her tools for scouting against these champs would give her a more unique niche while not breaking any weakness she currently has.

Well done!

Magic Wizard Joe1 votes

she'd be busted in LCS. you know the 90% different game that less then 1% of the player base actually plays in determines the state of the game overall. Wait... I forgot where I was going with that...

Carnicore1 votes

The area that Hawkshot reveals is enormous. I can understand something like Lee Sin's Q revealing invisible champions because it's a skillshot, but there's no way to avoid Hawkshot if Ashe fires it in your general direction. This would just be way too unfair for assassins to play against.

Jericho Azariah1 votes

My personal opinion (please don't crucify me), i feel like they should rework Ashe to be a de-buff support marksman (with a slight move speed advantage(maybe similar to Teemo's move speed ability)); i m just saying to add diversity within the marksman group. Change her hawk shot to reveal stealth(maybe giving a passive increase to move speed per point in hawk shot), make her frosted enemy more weaker or vulnerable (just an idea since i viewed alot of games, movies, novels, and tv series that shows frosted or chilled affect doing more then just slow your legs). make her ult have a new particle affect where the target that gets hit directly is frozen. im still thinking of other possible ideas, but right now i bitching at my other self to figure out what other changes that would be good but not so overpowering.

FakeGravity1 votes

only in the center of the explosion radius tho, would be too strong to use it to scout the enemy jungle and reveal steath champions along the way

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