Riot please nerf garen, nerf him with all you'r might, that champion is too strong, hes healing is OP he has warmogs armour in hes pasive??? What??? Also he deals too much damage and hes a tank A TANK, sure you can outplay him and even if hes 0/5 he can still kill you without much effort, please riot do something about this, i played this champ and i know hes OP.
Thank you.
Noor Sakata7 votesGaren isn't a tank , he is a Juggernaut , a class that is immobile/Tanky/does high damage the moment they reach their target , like Darius ,therefore , your argument is wrong.
Space Jhin2 votesSo you're telling me that Garen is immobile? Huh?
Unwardil2 votes[{quoted}](name=IT EnJhineer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b228A87o,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-11-20T14:52:45.422+0000)
So you're telling me that Garen is immobile? Huh?
Compared to literally every champion with a wall-clearing dash, yes. You know, all of them in games above gold.
loli fidler3 votesmobility in the context of a moba is anything other than ms that gets you from point A to point B faster (altho i understand that you and me want to instinctively think of mobility as ms)
Noor Sakata2 votes[{quoted}](name=IT EnJhineer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b228A87o,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-11-20T14:52:45.422+0000)
So you're telling me that Garen is immobile? Huh?
his Q isn't a dash , it's MS , if he mobile for having MS , then that means 
and a lot others are mobile too ?
Unwardil4 votesWrong. The fact that he can kill you if you don't outplay him means he is perfectly balanced, because the other thing that's true about Garen is that money is almost completely wasted on him, because it doesn't matter how fed he gets, it is almost impossible for him to win the game except by split pushing and you CAN ALWAYS outplay him.
Space Jhin4 votesHow do you outplay him when he's running at you with 400ms while being immune to CC and hitting you with a point and click spell that does half of your hp and silences you, then hits you with another point and click spell that depletes the other half?
Unwardil1 votes[{quoted}](name=IT EnJhineer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=b228A87o,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-11-20T14:47:55.045+0000)
How do you outplay him when he's running at you with 400ms while being immune to CC and hitting you with a point and click spell that does half of your hp and silences you, then hits you with another point and click spell that depletes the other half?
You ward, you dash, you go over a wall, there are a million and 1 ways to outplay a Garen no matter how much money he's got. Garen's simply cannot carry a game single-handedly above Gold. He's in the perfect spot.
HommeGoujon3 votesThat's funny that your definition of "outplay" is "avoid to fight him" "You ward, you dash, you go over a wall". I agree with the rest. Since I'm in Gold I still have a hard time laning against Garen because he gets mercury's and still deals more dmg than me. If I'm 60% hp or lower under my turret I have to recall or he'll flash+q+ult+ignite (just in case) my face. I know as Renekton it's supposed to be an "easy" matchup but I still struggle so much against him... like out of 12 times I've encountered him, I won twice only because I got carried lol With time I'll understand how to play against him but for now he's permabanned for me :)
Unwardil1 votesThat's funny that your definition of "outplay" is "avoid to fight him" "You ward, you dash, you go over a wall". I agree with the rest. Since I'm in Gold I still have a hard time laning against Garen because he gets mercury's and still deals more dmg than me. If I'm 60% hp or lower under my turret I have to recall or he'll flash+q+ult+ignite (just in case) my face. I know as Renekton it's supposed to be an "easy" matchup but I still struggle so much against him... like out of 12 times I've encountered him, I won twice only because I got carried lol With time I'll understand how to play against him but for now he's permabanned for me :)
If you're in gold, you dont get to have opinions on what is overpowered and what isnt. If you understood the game on a higher level, you would be able to reach at least platinum.
HommeGoujon1 votesCondescending much?
Unwardil2 votesCondescending much?
Doesn't make it less true though does it?
Fact is, this game has always been and must always been balanced primarily for top tier play. Garen seems very overbearing at low levels, but once your team learns to work together, he just sucks ass. He doesn't have pentakill potential, he's not even a great splitpusher. He's an OK splitpusher, but he's no Jax.
HommeGoujon2 votesIt doesn't but I'd rather have your last reply than a "shut up worthless goldie" type of reply lol
Unwardil1 votesIt doesn't but I'd rather have your last reply than a "shut up worthless goldie" type of reply lol
That's not what I said. I said anyone who doesn't play at a high level doesn't understand the underpinnings of the game mechanics to a sufficient degree to be able to speak with any authority on the matter.
HommeGoujon2 votesHmm, I took it like this: If you're in gold, you dont get to have opinions on what is overpowered and what isnt. --> "You're gold don't talk"
If you understood the game on a higher level, you would be able to reach at least platinum --> You're too stupid to even reach plat.
But I guess I read wrong. My bad then.
Chef Bonezy2 votesHmm, I took it like this: If you're in gold, you dont get to have opinions on what is overpowered and what isnt. --> "You're gold don't talk"
If you understood the game on a higher level, you would be able to reach at least platinum --> You're too stupid to even reach plat.
But I guess I read wrong. My bad then.
My money is that he just blasted through ranks playing the flavour of the month and got to plat and just got his reward. No point arguing with people with that kind of mentality. He was shutting you up like the overzealous %%%% that he is.
Space Jhin3 votesOh... Tanks are doing too much damage? It's not like we've already been complaining about that for 2 seasons straight.
loli fidler2 votesyou sir have spelled srtonk wrong
MaxDarkwill2 votesLets be real here. Way too many champions deal too much damage.
Monstermushmush2 votesMaybe reduce his Q movement speed by a tiny bit.
Bernys1 votesLike, he is definitely strong. I would say maybe too much, but definitely not broken. I think the trouble of him lies in his passive, bcuz he just snuggles up to tower and waits it out. Yes, he sucks when you can poke him, but if you are another juggernaut in the top, you are getting your ass kicked. If he gets on top of you and you dont have flash, better go collect your butt up.
