Riot has ROYALY messed up.

Lui··11 votes·874 views

This new draft mode. It's good, I'll say that, for RANKED AND DRAFT ONLY. Bring Teambuilder back. I was in a 4 man premade and we all had different primaries, what do you know, some random wanted the same role as the mid laner so it messes up everyone. Riot you seriously need to get your shit together and bring back Team Builder. This is literally rage inducing and really close to making me just stop playing in general.

And before you say "just go play blind pick if you dont like it nub" blind pick is honestly just as bad. 9/10 games you dont get the role you want. KMS

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The Bearded Bard3 votes

I don't think anyone will care considering you only play like one game per 3 months.

maxaroni1181 votes

how? the whole point of this new system is so u can play the lanes that u are either good at or prefer

i play mid and adc alot so when i put down jungler as a lane i want it looks through my history to see how i do as a jungler compared to my other role (in this case adc)

it will not only match u with players that are around your skill level but give u your carry lane that u want

i dont see the problem unless u want to play a lane that u obviously are not good at... honestly people should stop complaining

if u have problems just go work at riot geez

Lui1 votes

Okay, let me rephrase. I don't have a problem with the new system. It just seems really stupid for them to take out Team Builder completely. There's no point, it works fine. The only problem was having to wait awhile, which was never really an issue to begin with. I want Team Builder back because I was 100% going to get the role that I wanted, all you had to do was wait. The problem with the new mode is it MAKES you pick a secondary role, I don't want a secondary role I want ONE role, the role I want to play, which is not always a guarantee because more often than not I've gotten my mandatory picked secondary role that I don't truthfully want.

maxaroni1181 votes

if u want just one role, then spam play it and use a role u dont normally play as a secondary

that way riot will c u dont play say jungle as much as your main

if u do that, u will more likely play the role u actually want

the new system makes you play roles that u either recently played well, or play alot and u are very good at

Goldoot3 votes

The new system works well for ranked gameplay, because that's what it was built for. To still have the draft pick integrated, but add Team Builder-esque elements with selecting champions and roles. But for normal queue it makes no sense when compared to Team Builder and actually does a worse job.

Team Builder was perfect, not to mention it worked. You select your champion, then the role you were to fill with that champion. You were guaranteed the champion and role. There is no "searching through your match history for what a computer thinks is the best suited role for you." (which to be honest I've not heard of this being the basis for determining which role you'll get, but if so this system is that much worse than I thought) Majority of the time, matchmaking does not give me the role I wish to play, even set as primary. I also don't understand why the secondary role is a requirement in the first place. What if I only want to play one role at any given time (usually my case)? I'm screwed based on what the game believes I'm good at (apparently), or chance. I can imagine why the secondary role is there, but it should be optional. I don't understand why the game would match two players who have the same primary role in the first place. This is a major fault with the system, it simply doesn't make sense.

For example, I like to play jungle, so I set it as my primary. Support as my secondary, as it is my next best role. Majority of the time I will end up playing support. I've been told it's because it's an unpopular role that is easily filled regardless of the selected primary. Okay, so I select mid. Same results. I do not buy into the "solution" to this fault being "select a popular role!" It is not a solution whatsoever. It is a fault, and it needs to be fixed. Why can't I select the role I want to play, then have the game match me with players who fill other roles? Because Team Builder was removed from the client.

One other theory I have that we'll have to see about when Jhin comes out, is how new champions will work in this new system. Anyone that's played ranked when a new champ is released knows they are banned almost every game. With this new draft mode, I imagine it will be no different. That said, besides blind pick (which won't work well either with insta-lockers), will no one even be able to try new champions? They'll either be banned every game because people don't know how to play with or against that new champion. Let's say you manage to lock in that champion, other players can still dodge. Chances you might be able to play a new champion you were eager for are severely cut, already due to people dodging, but now bans will play a role in this as well. Maybe it's a bit unrealistic to think about, but it's still a possibility.

This new system is flawed for any player that is looking to play the game non-competitively in normal matches. Having a computer deciding which roles are best for you does not make good system by any means. Computers are some of the dumbest machines in existence, how can you expect them to make decisions better than a human? Really, in most debates I've heard between "New Draft" & Team Builder is that Team Builder took too long to find a game because the lack of role x or y. At least in Team Builder I could play which role I wanted, guaranteed.

Also, "honestly people should stop complaining, if u have problems just go work at riot geez." This makes no sense. Absolutely no sense. I have complaints because I see clear flaws in the system. Flaws the majority of the community does not see for some reason. That or they're silent about it. Or I'm completely missing something others see working fine. I can't even address the ladder part of that comment, just.. what do you even mean?

TL;DR - New Draft is flawed based on primary and secondary role selection and needs to be fixed, or Team Builder needs to be reintroduced as a different game option.

maxaroni1181 votes

if u really dont like support

dont pick it ever

go jungle mid if that is what u want

problem solved

i mean honestly why do u even pick support ever

(i do bcuz i can do any role but why tho)

Lui1 votes

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maxaroni1181 votes

yo that isnt cool ok? i never purposely try to offend the person i discuss with so ur just being bm and salty for nothing...

why do u hate one me dude

im actually not saying anything against u at all

wow so this is how bad people become on boards

Goldoot2 votes

Did you even read the message? I said support is my next best role. I like playing support, but most of the time I only want to play jungle. The "primary, mid" selection is not a solution and does not work in my experience like everyone claims it does.

maxaroni1181 votes

umm do u mean did i read your essay on how ur pissed on never getting the role you want?

no ofc not

ever heard of summarizing? Yeah u did a great job

also i didnt ask for u to go mid primary

im just saying if u dont want to play as a support dont play as one

Lui1 votes

He did summarize, only if you actually did read. Do you even know what a tl;dr is? A summary. pls

maxaroni1181 votes

his summary only states that he dislikes that Team Builder was taken away

and that the new draft is flawed due to not being able to play your role that you choose as primary

i did read it and it gave me no information on what he actually wanted to play

i can see now that he likes support but prefers jungle so why do u put support as a secondary?

if u know u play support a bit but dont want to play it

then dont put it down as the role you want to play if u dont get your primary!

i dont gett how it doesnt work

if u want jungle, but dont get it you get support?

it only does that if u select support as your secondary and u are playing with a jungle main on your team

LatetotheRace1 votes

What exactly sets Draft and team builder apart exactly? It's everything good about team builder (E.G. the roles you want) without the 100% counter pick. I don't understand your issue mate.

Lui1 votes

The problem is you don't get the role you want 100%, like you did in Team Builder. I always had a 100% chance of getting the role I wanted in team builder, only issue was the wait, and I wouldn't even call that an issue. In the new Draft Mode you only have the option to pick 2 different roles with the chance of not getting the primary role you wanted, what's even the point of the secondary role? It forces me to pick something I truly don't want to play. It bothers me how they would take out Team Builder as a whole when there was literally nothing wrong with it.

LatetotheRace1 votes

They probably removed team builder to not only stress the system, but likely to assist higher tiers in actually queuing up. As far as getting to play your role, I feel as if it's better that you get to practice one role at least every so often. It really helps making the community as a whole more healthy when it comes to knowledge of playing the game.

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