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You think a new e will be enough for gangplank?

Demark Lagann··1 votes·1,361 views

Idk why these people (aka riot) believe a new E will magically make gangplank viable just look at his kit I mean, I love gangplank he was my first champ buying but he literally does nothing but gets free assist and shoot a few people. Right now why would anyone ever use him over all of these amazing champs with crazy kits that are much more interesting and viable than his own? What kind of new E would completely turn him around i really can't think of one. I know I can do nothing about the outcome of his rework but I love this champ and I really want to see him shine and not so frowned upon.

IN CONCLUSION to my rant, I believe he deserves at least a new passive along with the E and R tweeks. I havent seen anything said about a new passive and Its annoying so I ask riot... will there be a new passive or will you just let gp sink and fall?

Also a question to current gangplank players, would you prefer parrrley to be a skillshot? I acually would in exchange for it being able to go trough 2 people maybe or an extended range. Of course the 2nd person hit would take reduced damage Gangplank just wanna make him rich and happy :D

23 Comments

BastionKross3 votes

His E will be the first thing to go, Riot has said that. His R will probably need work. Right now it's okay, but it could have more impact. His passive should either be replaced completely or gain a scaling of some kind. It just falls off around level 3-4 and practically disappears by 9-10.

Right now, if you look at his kit and compare it to newer champions, there's no contest. GP has mana issues; And I'm talking about actual mana issues like "Q,W,E,oom". He's got no hard CC at all. His mobility is roughly equal to a Garen. His scalings are all over the place.

About the only positive thing he's got going for him is that several of his base stats are among the highest of all champions, and that at level 1 a GP with Q and crit chance runes is possibly the strongest level 1 champion aside from maybe Riven. Sadly, this advantage is greatly reduced at level 2 and is lost completely at level 3.

Not even the Koreans could find a way to make GP viable, and they tried their hardest with the Koreanplank build.

Ziovi1 votes

His E will be the first thing to go, Riot has said that.

Can you give me a link? i'd like to know more about this

BastionKross2 votes

This thread here: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/VGttfp8P-they-are-reworking-gangplank-there-is-a-major-concern-about-gangplank Meddler posted 8 days ago (which is probably the most up to date info you'll get):

We're giving him a new E, rather than gutting the power from the current one. I suspect the replacement won't be as useful for supportplank, apologies if that ends up removing a playstyle that it sounds like you really enjoy. Bit early to comment on details like how much attack speed/movement speed GP will have post rework. We've got the big picture generally figured out, but haven't gone through the balancing process yet, so specific numbers are subject to change.

Ziovi2 votes

thank you. Too bad, i liked playing supportplank... i hope it will still be at least partially viable for a bit of fun in normals XD On the other hand i don't dislike the idea of a bit of a rework on good old gp

Gym Leader Yaki2 votes

I agree! I was thinking about a few things. Like making GP more of a bruiser. Like giving him a new passive and his E would have both a new passive and active. Some change that would allow him to build 1-2 full defensive items while still keeping his regular crit plank damage.

Now hold up. Say what? Yes you heard me. BUT

If his Q would be a skillshot, then things could be interesting. Q would deal more, allowing GP to build tanky, but having it as a skill shot would prevent people from abusing it. Just a thought though.. I'm just brainstorming here xD

Demark Lagann1 votes

Exactly what I was thinking. The q really needs to be a skillshot sure it would make farming it a little harder but it sure would make him more fun to play and higher the skill cap a bit but idk about more dmg because it already does massive damage but maybe a 4 sec Cooldown and the ability to perice targets is exactly what he needs for his q if it became a skill shot.

DrCyanide2 votes

Here's an idea.

E - Get Boarded: Gangplank swings on a rope in a targeted direction. If he collides with a champion, he grabs that champion and swings back to his starting spot.

Potential to be a bit of a troll if it can be used on teammates, but it fits with the pirate theme, gives everyone's favorite stat (mobility), and can potentially let him earn that "Support" secondary role.

GuardDX1 votes

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Here's an idea.

E - Get Boarded: Gangplank swings on a rope in a targeted direction. If he collides with a champion, he grabs that champion and swings back to his starting spot.

Potential to be a bit of a troll if it can be used on teammates, but it fits with the pirate theme, gives everyone's favorite stat (mobility), and can potentially let him earn that "Support" secondary role.

lolz

Demark Lagann1 votes

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Here's an idea.

E - Get Boarded: Gangplank swings on a rope in a targeted direction. If he collides with a champion, he grabs that champion and swings back to his starting spot.

Potential to be a bit of a troll if it can be used on teammates, but it fits with the pirate theme, gives everyone's favorite stat (mobility), and can potentially let him earn that "Support" secondary role.

They wouldn't do that because his W already gives him and escape but it would be cool to go jg plank with that, maybe it could knock back lol

DrCyanide1 votes

His E is his "escape", as it's what gives him a move speed boost. A W does no good against someone who's able to match your speed and has no CC.

Demark Lagann1 votes

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His E is his "escape", as it's what gives him a move speed boost. A W does no good against someone who's able to match your speed and has no CC.

True I'm sorry, the current E is so blan, boring and such a long cast time (that it takes 2 seconds to make up ground) I forget It gives you thoes stats lolol

ShuffledPancake2 votes

its not just the e Lolz, its his r maybe his q and his w will stay the same.

straight4free2 votes

A new Q and passive was enough to make Ashe broken. I'd wait and see what they can do for GP before we complain.

Demark Lagann1 votes

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A new Q and passive was enough to make Ashe broken. I'd wait and see what they can do for GP before we complain.

A new q,passive and e and w tweeks is what ashe got. THoes are uparades to ALL her abilities aside from her ult. Gangplank has only been said to have a new E and tweeks to his R from everything I've researched. He needs a new passive. I'd rather him getting reworked and being op for a bit until a nerf than for riot to rework him thinking he's viable when he's not then just forget about him like everyone seems to do.

JustMyBassCannon2 votes

If you want to be absolutely accurate, Ashe's entire kit had small tweaks.

Her passive was changed to one guaranteed crit at the start of a fight (after Focus stacks build up) to guaranteed crits on Frosted targets, scaling the damage with her Crit Chance/Damage stats.

Her Q was changed to an AS steroid that has an AD multiplier attached.

Her W got an increase in the number of missiles, but it's now easily possible to have two or three units block the whole spread, and multiple arrows don't deal repeat damage.

Her E got increased cooldown in exchange for a charge system.

Her R had the AoE slow reduced to whatever her passive is giving, instead of 50%.

And the only ones that are strict upgrades are her Q and passive.

straight4free2 votes

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A new q,passive and e and w tweeks is what ashe got. THoes are uparades to ALL her abilities aside from her ult. Gangplank has only been said to have a new E and tweeks to his R from everything I've researched. He needs a new passive. I'd rather him getting reworked and being op for a bit until a nerf than for riot to rework him thinking he's viable when he's not then just forget about him like everyone seems to do.

Her W change was a nerf. Her E change was a buff in organized play but a nerf in solo Q due to the removal of the gold increase.

Reikken1 votes

his other four skills are godlike, so a new E will make him Jesus

Earl Eulrich1 votes

as his old e had been a lot of his power...i think they´ll ruin him. all he would have needed had been a new passive (and maybe some power taken away from the q to someplace else, as it really is low-counterplay).

Demark Lagann1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aYEwJ3Fp,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-06-08T13:20:22.928+0000)

as his old e had been a lot of his power...i think they´ll ruin him. all he would have needed had been a new passive (and maybe some power taken away from the q to someplace else, as it really is low-counterplay).

This must me some god passive you have in your mind if you think they should take away some dmg

Earl Eulrich1 votes

if they shift some power away from q it would be alright to buff w,e, or r aswell as the passive...e.g. add an ms buff and some missing health scaling to the w if it dispells a cc. adding some ad-scaling to the passive dot would already help out a lot aswell already. Or let he dot scale with crit%dmg and make it truedmg instead of allowing gp to have the usual crit, making him less point%click-burst but still impactfull + allowing him to widdle down tanks much faster.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

nobody mentions his q

while crit plank is fun to play ... and i even enjoy an ap gp from time to time

its not something that should be preserwed ... one shot that you pray for to crit, thats not much of a good gameplay here

Bodkins Odds1 votes

I just want his passive to scale better into late game. I mean, the slow is always nice but the damage falls off pretty quickly.

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