Always wonder why this wasn't put there in the first place. Kindred, Nasus, Bard, and Thresh all have a stack indicator on how many stacks you have so why Veigar and Sion?
P.S. Yes I know that you hover over Sion's w and Viegar's q but I'd just prefer if it was in the left hand corner.
Modmar10 votesIt's so enemy team doesn't know the exact amount. You can look at their stats to get a general idea of their stacking, but Riot doesn't want everyone in the game to know "veigar has +600 ap" because it looks like an absurd amount, so people would call for a nerf on forum, but actually requires a lot of farming.
Mimaropa1 votesIn 15 min I only get 50 ap from farming with veigar's q.
I know I am bad but its too damn hard to even stay alive in lane.
WadeWilson13371 votesVeigar is pretty bad right now since ap mids are going extinct and the Talon/Zed master race is here, and just rush hexdrinker and make you unable to kill them.
Squidblimp3 votesI disagree with you, because Nasus has the same amount of stuff with his stacks. This is a flawed argument.
DrCyanide4 votesSion and Veigar stacks increase one of their base stats, and that's all they do. You can get a feel for their progress by clicking on them and looking at that stat.
The others you listed either have multiple stats effected (Thresh) or have their ability effects/damage modified (Bard/Nasus) or it's a percentage damage increase (Kindred). They need a different way to judge how they're scaling because base stats alone don't tell you enough.
DorkunedAuras1 votesBut veigar builds AP other than his stacks, and sion builds HP/has HP other than his stacks, making it it impossible to accurately read their stacks.
DrCyanide6 votesBut it doesn't matter if you can accurately read the stacks, what matters in the end is the total AP or HP you have.
Would knowing how many stacks an ally Veigar help you out? No, you just need to know if he has enough AP to burst a certain target. Where it came from doesn't help you.
Would knowing how many stacks an ally Veigar has help you out? No, you just need to know if he has enough AP to burst you or your allies. Where it came from doesn't help you.
Would knowing how many stacks you, as Veigar, have help you out? Maybe, for keeping track of how well you're doing at CSing with your Q. So you can see how much bonus AP you've got by mousing over your Q.
DorkunedAuras1 votesit would be good to know. This is a question of why not, rather than why.
It gives an assessment of where veigar is going to cap. If veigar has 600 AP, it's good to know how much of that is stacks, and how much of that is everywhere else, it gives you an idea of how he's progressing.
qetzel3 votesAdding these stats has no real gameplay value.
To find out how hard Veigar hits you need to know his AP - where that AP comes from doesn't affect how you play. To find out how tough Sion will be to kill you need to know his health and resistances. KNowing where his health comes from won't change how you play.
The other champions have specific icons because their damage etc changes in a way that other champion's don't (Levels and items). You need to know how many stacks they have. To find out how many much damage Bard's Meeps do you need to know how many stacks he has. To find out how much damage Nasus' Q will do you need to know how many stacks he has. To find out how much extra damage Kindred does on her AAs you need to know how many stacks she has. To know how much Thresh is going to do with his wind-up AA you need to know how many souls he has collected.
The stacks aren't put there because they are interesting. They are put there because they will (or at least should) affect your opponents gameplay. Your opponent needs a way to find out.
Heretic Lunari1 votesThey should put an indicator so they'll know when they should cower in fear.
KevinDelMarr1 votesSion's tankiness is clearly evident by his max hp and items, and veigar only cares about his total AP, which is easy for enemies to look at. Veigar should almost always be seen as someone who can kill you with a full combo at almost any hp, so knowing if he has 100 or 80 AP from his passive is mostly irrelevent. Kindred, Nasus, Bard, and Thresh have no way to see or show their power numbers without looking at the ability, and their opponent would have no way to notice otherwise as well. In fact, in the case of Nasus it aides the enemy because they can keep tabs on his power level, so the information gained is increased.
JVP151 votesOf course, when that Veigar has over 900 bonus AP, you might consider not all inning him without at least a ten man team. wait a couple of moments
DECAKILL!
Spoofghoul1 votesOk well ive got a bit of a rule of thumb for you then since i am a Sion main.
Lane Sion He gets 2 stacks for small minions and monsters and 10 for everything else, Since you get small minions more often i take that number and add 1 to compensate for the occasional big monster/cannon minion kill and assisst.
Sions cs x 3 = bonus health stacks
100 cs = 300 hp 200 cs = 600 hp 300 cs = 900 hp
This isnt always 100% correct but on average this is very very close.
**Jungle Sion ** In the jungle you get less cs total but there is a big creep every camp. just double the multiplier and you come very close Sions cs x 6 = bonus health stacks 50 cs = 300 hp and so on
You can actually see his stacks but a quick look at the score board reveals his cs too and you can use this to get an approximate number without having to look it up specifically
T4YL0RR1 votesYes, I know you get
+2 health per minion +10 per large monster and canon
and also you can hover over your w.
It's just I would like to see how much extra health I have accumulated like Kindred, Nasus, Bard, and Thresh.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesKindred, Nasus, Bard and Thresh all have stack counters since knowing their current values can be quite important. These stacks affect their damage (and in Bard's case, utility) in ways which will not be immediately obvious. For example, if you couldn't see Nasus' stacks you wouldn't be able to tell if his Q would deal +100 damage or +1000 damage until he actually hit you which is very important information if you decide to fight him.
For Sion and Veigar, their stacks provide a visible stat. Enemies don't really need to be able to see there stats to judge their threat level. For example, if Veigar has 1000 AP, it doesn't matter if +100 or +300 AP is from Q stacks; his threat is from his total AP. which you can clearly see.
LadyRenly1 votesHow many stacks Veigar or Sion has is irrelevant. All that matters is that Veigars stacks=AP and Sion stacks=HP. For Veigar, all that matters is how much AP he has, which can be determined by clicking on him. I dunno, I'm always curious about how deadly Veigar is so I click on him every so often to gauge his power level
Snake Town1 votesThe thing is, that info isn't useful and just gives teammates a reason to flame