"Every marksmen auto should feel unique"

Duke of Sloths·2/15/2017, 9:51:16 PM·49 votes·9,679 views

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With a goal like this in mind, our general marksmen count is:

Ashe Caitlyn Corki Draven Ezreal Graves Jhin Jinx Kalista Kindred KogMaw Lucian MissFortune Quinn Sivir Tristana Twitch Urgot Vayne Teemo Azir Kennen

So far most of the roster has a unique auto. Applying some sort of debuff, having a unique effect via reloads, range, or damage calculations.

Are there any specific marksmen who are under-performing under this goal?

151 Comments

Clementine2/15/2017, 10:40:45 PM12 votes

I don't think Azir and Kennen are really marksmen. But Azir's autos still feel juicy

ZZaj2/16/2017, 9:52:53 AM10 votes

Lucian feels unique in that you die the most while doing the least damage

Chief Mayonnaise2/15/2017, 10:34:26 PM7 votes

Only one that really feels kinda boring to me is ezreal, but I guess he's mostly about his q anyway. It's actually a pretty good sytem tbh.

NodirjonSattarov2/16/2017, 12:59:49 AM7 votes

KogMaw

if you haven't played kog'maw, play him and tell me how successful you feel

Irelia Bot2/16/2017, 1:34:08 AM6 votes

Where is Ahri and Leblanc?

Friendly Ram2/15/2017, 10:46:39 PM5 votes

probably just ez. is kennen really an adc?

PunnedIt2/15/2017, 10:45:37 PM5 votes

I would hate it if they tried to "diversify" the ADCs' basic attacks more. Considering how basic attacks are meant to be reliable dps on AD carries, giving them some wonky mechanic only hurts that job. Ashe's slow, Tristana's small aoe, and Twitch's poison are ok, but the reload mechanic of Graves and Jhin is pushing it. Sure you want diversity, but an ADC's autoattacks can only handle so much complexity before becoming either broken or making the champion unplayable.

Sire Hippington2/16/2017, 12:44:28 AM5 votes

In the actuall 'FEEL' part, most still are the same though. The reloads of graves and Jhin help alot of makeing the different same for dravens Q, Vaynes silverbolts make her feel a bit diffrence, giving her some cadenz and makeing her feel bad about switching targets, Mf's passive helps a bit at makeing her feel good about switching between targets, though her old W passive also made her feel god about staying in a fight and getting the stacks up, so she already had a decently unique feel to her rightclicking befor the update aswell. Lucians passive leads to spellslinging which feels good, similar for Quinn. Sivir has an AA reset that gives a bit of extra fun, though she had even more resets befor the last rework.Kallistas passive also leads to a different feel on AAing

  1. Urgot and Ez feel different as they uspam their Q for dps rather than AAing, though when they AA it's not really different from others. The rest feels prettymuch the same, and exept for the reloaders, the actuall difference in the AA feel is overall not that big. It still mostly boils down to rightclicking shit and that's it, especially with crit gear in the late.
Snowplosion2/16/2017, 1:18:03 AM4 votes

Ezreal's autos don't really feel like they are there. I have trouble noticing if they even went through and did damage a lot of the time.

SiG DxD2/15/2017, 11:02:02 PM4 votes

myitem 3031 Azir doesnt work yet

Ødełł2/16/2017, 1:31:47 AM4 votes

I feel like kindred's auto isn't really unique. The only change to his auto's are when his e is on a target which is like 14 seconds+ at lvl 1 i mean other than that every other marksman has a unique auto attack

Paradise Proxy2/16/2017, 5:26:14 PM2 votes

if they touch ap varus im going to cry

cinomenapplebae2/15/2017, 11:08:36 PM2 votes

Caitlyn (without passive) Sivir Ezreal Varus Don't feel very different imo

Anonagon2/15/2017, 11:54:06 PM2 votes

Ezreal is definitely lacking if you don't consider his Q as filling that goal. Urgot is similar if you want to treat him as an ADC (though I personally view him as a mage).

I think Kindred is also lacking. Yes, she has her %current damage, but since its a persistent physical damage on-hit, its not noticeably separate from her base auto damage the way that something like Vayne's W is.

SnowFall2/16/2017, 8:16:21 AM2 votes

I hate last hitting with tristana when E disrupts it

Ahristocats2/15/2017, 9:58:26 PM2 votes

they seriously said this?

hahaha

though draven twitch and corki AA are unique