@Xypherous 5.13 Spell Vamp/AP items and Mordekaiser state

Stars Shaper··2 votes·942 views

Introduction: I wrongly asked about this to Ironstylus in a previous thread. Realizing my mistake I made this new one asking to the the one who actually talked about this.

So I've just read about the changes which are going to be sperimented about AP items and, more importantly, Spell Vamp. What came out from that chat is like that the only champions who will be affected by thosre will be Swain and Vlad while there has been no word about Mordekaiser while it's pretty clear that any change in his build makes or brakes him more than any rework could possibly do.

Now, the Rilay's and Ludens changes seem to benefit him (in his CURRENT state) while the change to Spell Vamp looks very... foggy... and I can't really understand if it's going to be another thing Morde must build but will be less effective anyway (as it is building Spirit Visage after the HP regen nerf) or something he will gladly welcome.

Also, what has been bothering me a lot about Mordekaiser's state is the utter and unbreakable silence about his rework, Riot's happyness with him, balance state, etc. There has been more talks about Lore rather then him after the rework has been driven out from.. 4 (5?) PBEs ago and there has been neither a "He is fine as it is, the rework isn't happening unless things get extremely weird" kind of answer.

In conclusion, I'd like to know your vision about him and if there are plans for him within Riot.

6 Comments

Photos of Ghosts2 votes

I don't play the mordehue, but I can tell you that at my level of lay he's not more popular than Galio.

Meep Man2 votes

While I cant respond to your question, I can definitely say that this Wota change will make make Mordekaiser's healing a lot more effective, especially on his R since the main thing that keeps his R in place is the reduction due to magic resist. Wota, Lyandry's, and Rylai's will probably be some new core items on Mordekaiser after these changes since his R would become a 11 second, 20% slow that also deals max and current health damage. Wota will make it heal him by a LOT! The Luden's buff will be decent for him since it gives him more mobility. If Riot makes Gunblade a pure AP item, which they should, then Mordekaiser will get VERY GOOD since it gives him extra damage and, most importantly, a slow.

Mordekaiser might be able to be in LCS comps if they have enough crowd control in the rest of their team.

Stars Shaper3 votes

Doing the math in games was never my strong point but as he himself said the changes should make Spell Vamp heal more without penetration, meaning that Morde could actually build other boots and not being forced to Sorcerer's.

Looking forward to see how the changes will be when deployed.

HateDaddy2 votes

With the AP changes and spell vamp changes, Morde may legit be broken. It's less about the spell vamp imo, it's more about the rylais/liandrys change and the slow now applying 40% to aoe spells in exchange for a .5 second less slow duration. Basically Mordes aoe damage is going to be better overall, vamping should be better for him as well. In reality, all you should really need on Morde is:

item 3116 item 3151 item 3001 item 3157 item 3135 item 3158

He's going to be really good I suspect

Celeste Benal1 votes

inb4 Ekko stops buying item 3285 and starts buying item 3116. Same cost, same AP, +300HP, and another 40% slow. Can you imagine how easily he will kill people with double 40% slows on his Q?

Stars Shaper2 votes

Why not both? xD

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