Riot Don't Nerf Ornn Plz

Besteal·1/23/2018, 1:32:20 PM·1 votes·493 views

Ornn isn't really a problem right now, and I don't know why he's getting a nerf. On paper, it looks small, but in reality, it's a massive change to his entire playstyle. He'll either become nerfed into unviability, or he'll just be so weak it won't matter anyway. You might think "oh, losing unstoppability isn't that bad." But in reality, Ornn depends on it. He only has 2 real hard cc in his kit. In his ult, and in his e. His brittle knock back isn't partically strong in general, it only lasts for a few tenths of a second. This means that compared to other tanks in the industry, he is sorely lacking. And even with comparable tanks with even less cc than Ornn, he is still lacking. Comparable top laners like Malphite, Maokai, or even Galio have much more than he does. They have the hard cc or simple great engages or possible disengages that Ornn lacks, along with doing the same that he does. Ornn only has one semi-reliable engage, his ultimate (which is also receiving a hefty cooldown increase), and no disengage at all. His cc is quite unreliable, requiring his enemies to be located right next to a wall, or being so badly positioned they end up in his w. Ornn needs his w or his ult up to be useful anytime at all. Needless to say, removing his unstoppability on the w and increasing the cooldown on his ult will impact his viability greatly. If I'm playing Ornn, I need to be able to afflict my brittle and most of the damage on my w reliably, as it's the only real damage I have. But now, without unstoppability, I can be easily diverted by a simple stun, knock back, knock up, Blitz Grab, etc etc etc. Or the w could be used to stop myself from being, say grabbed by an enemy hook champ. Unstoppability is intrinsic in Ornn's kit, and removing it will be horrible. For example, right now, Ornn can reliably fight cc heavy champs, or a champ that has a ton of damage, and then a massive burst of cc. Like Yasuo. For now, an Ornn fighting Yasuo before the Yas hits his 3 item powerspike could result in Ornn winning, because his w will stop Yas from knocking him up and ulting him, thereby giving him much more survivability. Once again, the nerf on Ornn's w is crippling, and increasing the cooldown on his ult by SO MUCH is just rubbing salt into the wound.

I hope Riot sees this and reconsiders their massive nerfs to Ornn, as they are far too crippling for the champ to receive, and could throw him right down there with the likes of Volibear and Skarner.

Anyway, if you read this in it's entirety, thanks, and have a good day!

6 Comments

Śhunpo1/23/2018, 1:59:43 PM3 votes

Ornn is a problem right now, hence why he's still banned a lot.

doubleguac1/23/2018, 2:13:53 PM2 votes

Ornn is definitely overpowered right now, but I'd rather see his numbers go down than to see him lose this mechanic.

If you take away unstoppable, he still wins every trade against melees just by pressing W. He needs higher cooldowns or something.

TNL Retro2/20/2018, 8:35:52 AM1 votes

Personally the unstoppable bit wasn't the the biggest problem, it's the damage of the exact same spell. What is it? He breathes fire with a big puff that does damage based on His health, leaving a debuff. That debuff is consumed by an auto attack that does a percentage of Their health. I'm not apologizing for the nerf he got though, an ability described as above that gives a shield and a status on par with a handful of ultimates with less than an 8 second cd? No, he's lucky Riot stopped there. They really should have been, unstoppable, with the nerfs