Fix Zilean's entire kit with 1 easy change.

I have seen it and done it.

Q -> E enemy -> W -> Q Repeat until everyone targets you and then R before they can kill you.

Also landing 2 on any entity causes the aoe stun. Try doing it on your stun/taunt team diver like or . His W is almost a root except people will still try to full run instead of throwing anything back at you. Use it.

As for Q vs Q? Zilean can throw his Q over minions and has more range while trying to shoot bards Q thru minions is hard because they need to be right by the minion since hitting a minion cuts the range past it down to a sliver.

I do all of those things all the time. try being a little predictive dude.

i have seen zil land double bomb 1v1 ive done it ive also double bombed an ally it isnt hard just learn how to hit a skillshot

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Have you tried double bombing an ally?

I didn't think so.

Nope, but only because I don't play Zilean. I'm perfectly capable of doing this.

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Have you seen a land double bombs in a 1v1?

I didn't think so.

Yes, all the time, well, within the very rare games I've seen a Zilean in.

{quoted} Will bully in lane with this change?

Not unless you're a potato.

He'll bully -more- with this change, and in a way that's not very healthy, and it has absolutely nothing to with tubers.

The proposed change is ironic, but then again every champion needs some sort of reliability to their damage. Even , a champion with 1 damage spell like Zilean gets a thick skillshot and an auto attack modifier. Same for , she got reworked and kept her Q, which you can't really do anything beside step out of her range to avoid damage.

I'm in for this change.

I'm against the change cause I'd like to see power added to his kit elsewhere, in ways that make him more interesting to play against, not less.

Bard's Q has a very thin projectile unless you hit a target, and a very short but thick secondary projectile for the stun. In otherwords, VERY unreliable.

And Sona.....patron saint of bad example, here, no? She's had lots of her power funneled away from her damage and burst and massive range auras and into her new snuggle zones, all while Riot admitted that the aforementioned parts of her kit weren't great places for power.